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Taz
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Message 1 of 219 (465258)
05-04-2008 2:27 PM


If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that it was my voice telling my former life's story. I'm just curious to see how many former christians here relate to this confession?

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 6 of 219 (465379)
05-06-2008 12:29 AM


What nailed the coffin for me...
For me, the thing that nailed the coffin of my christian faith was the realization that all my life I had been condeming/hating people because of my religious beliefs. More specifically, I simply couldn't figure out a way to both have my christian faith AND love my gay neighbors as I would have myself. In the end, the christian faith had to go because, well, loving people is simply better.
I guess I could still reconsider going back to exploring my spiritual side if mainstream christianity could show me that it could make peace with gay people. In the mean time, no thanks on the hate part.
PS - Even after years of consciously forcing myself to be an atheist, I've often found myself wanting to pray/talk to god, the god that is suppose to be nonexistent. Perhaps this is why I still regularly go to church?

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 8 of 219 (465405)
05-06-2008 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by iano
05-06-2008 9:28 AM


Re: What nailed the coffin for me...
Haha, iano you just confirmed my atheism again. Yup, that's why I'm an atheist.
By the way, Mildred Loving just died last friday. Did you know that it was a sin for interracial couples to marry each other? It wasn't hate, you see. It was just sin.
Iano, you can hide behind your "it's a sin" thing all you want. It's people like you that have caused much misery throughout our entire history. It's people like you that have caused many societies in eastern europe to continue to deny that gay people were victims of the holocaust. Why? Because I guess it was rightful to kill gay people? "It's a sin" my ass.
If society didn't progress the way it did, you'd probably be advocating rounding up and jailing gay people for loving each other like you did with interracial couples. I'm willing to bet the only thing holding you back from commiting atrocities is because it's considered a taboo nowadays to be a bigot or to "hate". You have the same attitude. You're just calling it something else. Heck, I've personally talked to KKK members and most of them have denied "hating" black people. They just want to keep the races seperate, you see. Some of them have even tried to convince me that god intended for the races to be seperate and that it's a sin to mix them together.
Oh, by the way, the KKK is entirely made of christians.
Anyway, the point is I really am tempted from time to time to talk/pray to god. In fact, sometimes in times of distress I really do find comfort in talking to god. But all I have to do is think about what you (yes, you personally) say on these boards and then I'm an atheist again. But you really shouldn't worry. People like me who have seen through the bullshit are in the small minority.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Message 26 of 219 (465529)
05-07-2008 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by dwise1
05-07-2008 3:20 AM


dwise1 writes:
As infamous experiments show...
The most famous of these experiments is the Milgram experiment.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 27 of 219 (465530)
05-07-2008 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Buzsaw
05-07-2008 10:12 AM


Re: What nailed the coffin for me...
Buzsaw, has it ever occurred to you that the best way for you to bring me back to god is to demonstrate how good it would be rather than just giving me just another sermon that has next to no real meaning? What you just wrote is called (at least by me anyway) fortune cookie language.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 64 of 219 (466174)
05-13-2008 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by DwarfishSquints
05-13-2008 11:16 AM


On the keyboard, there's this thing called the shift button. There's also this thing called the space bar. And in the English language, a run-on sentence makes you look like an idiot.
That said, do you actually talk like the way you write? Because if you do, I feel sorry for your kids (if you've decided to have them or you will decide to have them).
Anyway, since you have absolutely no regard for your reader, including me, I don't see why I should take you seriously.
Oh and also, "I" is always capitalized. It's taught in grade school for goodness sake.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 96 of 219 (466516)
05-15-2008 12:26 PM


Wow, it's incredible how people can rationalize things even in the face of contradicting evidence.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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