The relevence of Biblical claims to science

I feel that this is a very important topic - I'm moving it now...

Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

This is the OP from Maestro's thread on nearly the same subject as Quetzal.

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I would like to propose a new topic with the title:
Are Biblical claims about creation relevent to the Evolution vs Creation debate?

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My primary interest is in hashing out whether claims in the Bible about creation should be treated in the forum at large as equal evidence (in principle) with scientific data and held up to a high level of scrutiny concerning its accuracy and trustworthiness.

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This topic stems from a recently closed thread which explored whether Creationists are held to a higher standard here than Evolutionists. My assessment there was that, because Biblical claims are largely deemed unimportant to the issue of evolution vs creation in this forum (an assertion also up for debate), creationists are forced to operate with an incomplete toolbox by not being granted an intellectual nod to explore with our evolutionary scientist friends a vital and highly relevent area of this issue.

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Put more succinctly, Creationists are expected to argue only within scientists because it is largely believed that only science is relevent. I wish to explore the possibility that evolutionists should consider Biblical claims about creation and interact with those claims in an intellectual manner as creationists have interacted with relevent scientific data.

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It is true that my opponents object on the grounds of there being no link between sprirituality and science. My response is the following:

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The Bible does not just talk about the spiritual realm. It talks about this physical world, and I am saying that those claims are relevent to the discussion of our physical existence and origin. I am not asking evolutionists to study feelings and demons and angels, I am asking them to study the claims in the Bible about the creation of this physical world. Because, afterall, there is a question of whether or not we were created or evolved.

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Thus, let us treat the related Biblical claims not as someone's bedtime valium, but as a serious documentation with claims about our origin that should be scrutinized.
  —"Maestro232"

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This post should be considered along with Quetzal's for the topic.AdminIRH

I'm afraid I'm still not sure. I really do think your threads are very similar, and deserve to be treated together.Maestro, you want to discuss if the creation claims in the bible are as valid as science in the evolution and creation debate. Quetzal, you want to examine the practical application of Maetro's claim, if it is considered to be true.It looks to me like two halves of a debate - the investigation of a claim, and the results if it is true. Granted, Quetzal includes spirituality in general, but the principle is the same.Am I simply misunderstanding your OP's?AdminIRH

Indeed...Don't worry - I did say that if the topic diverges too much I would make a separate thread. For the time being, let's try them together.Changing thread name now...