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Asgara

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Message 35 of 192 (170418)
12-21-2004 12:28 PM

Reply to: Message 32 by Maestro232
12-21-2004 12:06 PM

Re: Picking an example

I claim that science cannot explain the vitamin K shoot

I for one, would like some reference outside of creationist websites that:

infant's vit K levels rise so significantly, or peak on day 8
female infant's levels do NOT

The only medical reference I can find refers to the need to give newborns vit K shots to help with prothrombin production, and that when intestinal bacteria levels start increasing in about a week, vitamin K levels start rising and reach adult level around 6 weeks of age. (Interestingly, this is for both male AND female infants)

Some interesting citations on IIDB

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If this is suppose to be a biblical science claim, you need to show references.

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Asgara

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Message 42 of 192 (170429)
12-21-2004 12:51 PM

Reply to: Message 41 by Maestro232
12-21-2004 12:48 PM

Re: Picking an example

Why does a baby's vitamin K shoot up really friggin high only in males only on the 8th day

You have not shown this to be true. Please, if you are going to continue to use this please show medical references. You have been shown by many here that this is NOT so.

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Message 46 of 192 (170434)
12-21-2004 1:00 PM

Reply to: Message 43 by Maestro232
12-21-2004 12:53 PM

Re: The Unkindest Cut

Your source is a apologetic from a book originally written 40 years ago that contradicts the numerous cites that have been given in rebuttal.

Please show current medical reference to this phenomenon before you continue to use it as an example of the relevence of biblical science claims.

Asgara
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Message 50 of 192 (170438)
12-21-2004 1:08 PM

Reply to: Message 47 by Maestro232
12-21-2004 1:02 PM

Re: Picking an example

But dear, my point is that we HAVE researched it ourselves and have given rebuttal information that contradicts yours.

There is no spike in vitamin K production on the 8th day, even if so it isn't vitamin K per se that helps in clotting, it is prothrombin which can take several days to reach new levels after vit K levels rise, clotting factors continue to rise in newborns from within the 1st week until around the 6th week when adult levels are reached and all of this information is the same no matter the sex of the infant.

Some interesting citations on IIDB

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http://www.parentsplace.com/.../qas/0,,166598_101139,00.html

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