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Author | Topic: Endogenous Retroviral Insertions Demonstrate Evolution Beyond a Reasonable Doubt | |||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: What does it say about whether or where the lawsuit has been filed ? Just to be helpful it says this:"The value must be calculated precisely in accordance with the information collected, and afterward a lawsuit must be filed against all the Jews of the world, and against the Jews of Israel in particular, so they will repay the Egyptians the debt that appears in the Torah." Who does it say is backing the lawsuite ? The Egyptian government or "a group of Egyptian expatriates in Switzerland" ? And here is a simple check. Does clicking the link take you to a copy of the original article as Jester says ? Try it ! And Jester, I hadn't read the docket of the International Court - and neither have you. But I have now ! Go to Cour internationale de Justice | International Court of Justice Is the case there as Jester insists it is ? See for yourself !
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6501 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: You mean like your evasion of supporting your assertions..that type of little game? I am not so fond of your tactic either.
quote: Nope, you have no interpretation of the evidence..you merely dismiss it or are you going to explain how your interpretation of endogenous retroviral insertions supports creation ex nihilo? You have not presented a competing interpretation...merely said no, all scientists are wrong god did it and jesters opinion is correct regardless of whether or not he can support his assertions.
quote: I have a Ph.D. in human genetics and have worked for 7 years on the evolution of proboscideans, cervids, edentates, and guess what endogenous retroviruses....I get my research material from that I generate myself in the lab by experimentation and the reports of other scientists and their results as distributed by databases such as GenBank and published reports in peer reviewed academic journals....but this is not the reason I assert that you are wrong...I assert it because you have not demonstrated in a single post that you 1. understand anything about science or the scientific method 2. understand anything about the theory of evolution 3. understand anything about the studies that WinAce and myself presented and or linked to.
quote: Analogies are not evidence...if you present them as such I will make fun of them...and I have not needed to distort what you say thus far to make it look incorrect.
quote: Then by all means...what did the original bible say about cud chewing rabbits..and while you are at it..how many legs does the bible say insects have?...
quote:.. Please then show how your extensive research has one supported the1. testable hypothesis that you are about to present maybe? 2. How that hypothesis is falsfiable 3. what this evidence is... quote: So you are not saying the bible is correct?
quote: If I pointed out that WinAce is the only one who claimed that ERVs prove evolution and that I and the others say that science does not prove anything...how is it that we have not contradicted WinAce? All of us have contradicted WinAce...it is not my fault that you cannot understand that and wish to harp on some irrelevant point.
quote: WinAce was wrong in claiming that science can prove evolution, gravity, or anything else he wishes to claim science proves..happy now?...however, you have been wrong in every single one of your posts about what you have said..will you now admit you know nothing about the scientific method, evolution, and the difference between interpretation and evidence? etc....I doubt it
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bulldog98 Inactive Member |
Just for clarity's sake...
Can someone quote me where WinAce said ERV's proved evolution? Jester? Thanks.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4985 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Jester, I replied to your post on this thread:
Jester
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Strictly speaking he didn't.
If you follow the link that Jester provided in the first post you will see that 1: The explanation of the argument is there in the FIRST post of the thread on the totse board 2: Jester's sole involvement in that argument was to try to direct discussion here - where he claims it will be refuted (presumably on the assumption that there might be someone here who could do it for him). Despite claiming to have researched the issue he shows no understanding of it at all and certainly has no argument on either board.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6501 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
Hey, you are right...even in the original link that jester posted..WinAce used the word "demonstrates" and not "proves"....doh!
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bulldog98 Inactive Member |
That's what I thought; but I wasn't ruling out that I'd missed something (though I figured that unlikely, knowing WinAce).
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
This certainly demonstrates a difference in perspective, between Admin and myself.
I would have closed the topic. In no way would I have moved it to the "Free For All". Adminnemooseus
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6501 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
I don't see why the thread was shut down at all in the Evolution forum. I would like to see jester or any creationist explain the data in WinAce's original post and in the references I cited using a testable and falifiable hypothesis of creation ex nihilo. They have access to the same data in this case that scientists have....the sequences are in GenBank there for them to study.
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Wasn't it shut down because it was pretty much terminally off topic. Apart from the original post and some of your posts the whole thing got pretty much de-railed into biblical inerrancy and the nature of proof.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6501 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
A side topic on biblical inerrancy did develope but jester him(or her) self kept on topic by claiming that we were all ducking the question of whether evolution had been proven which ties back to the WinAce link. I don't think the thread had strayed as badly as some of the others for example the Elitism and Nazism thread has been off topic for longer.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
M, I agree with you.
In general, many topics are having serious "off-topic" problems. As I see it, posting volumes are such that control is very difficult. I'm going to close this one down. If anyone thinks a fresh start is needed, I suggest starting the "Evolution" topic "Endogenous Retroviral Insertions Demonstrate Evolution Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (take 2)" topic. Links back to both variations of this topic can be supplied. Adminnemooseus ------------------Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to Change in Moderation? or too fast closure of threads
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