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New Cat's Eye
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Message 226 of 264 (478878)
08-21-2008 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by brendatucker
08-21-2008 2:30 PM


Re: Why me?
I hope I can improve, but when I DISCOVER that it is a higher kingdom acting rather than my human self, I am driven to speak out and tell people, rather than allow us to go on under the guise that we are improving ourselves and making these gains into powers and love individually.
What if you're wrong? What if this discovery of yours is all in your head? Then what?
Why should I believe you any more than a schitzo who thinks he's Jesus? Seriouly, why should I?

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brendatucker
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Message 227 of 264 (478881)
08-21-2008 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by New Cat's Eye
08-21-2008 2:41 PM


Re: Christianity
You know, you may find the answers to your questions in strange places. Do you see how elements of truth can be revealed through many individuals, even those who are not smart or are not accomplished? The everyday people we meet in our world could have moments when a girasas being extends themselves towards producing events, kindnesses, counsel, promptings that make them act extraordinary.
I tried to answer you, but you didn't see any difference between a world religion and a fictional story.

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brendatucker
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Message 228 of 264 (478882)
08-21-2008 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by New Cat's Eye
08-21-2008 2:45 PM


Re: Why me?
It's not an everyday event that we have a challenger for Darwin. Part of my accomplishment would be in bringing attention to the work that is here for us all: The Theosophical Society and associated writings and The Saint Germain Foundation and associated writings.
Not very many people can countenance them both. Rather they become fiercely loyal to one and fiercely critical of the other. I was at peace in them both and came to love the people I met there, but now I have no contact with what I love because I have a little problem with forcing deceit upon the world.
I just want people to take an honest look at the work that is there and use this key that I am presenting you with and you don't have to believe me. You can see for yourself that we can organize the writings as I have suggested.
Then it becomes a problem of finding out whether or not there are Christian organizations or scientists who can make use of any of it. Maybe they can and maybe they can't. We shall see.

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Larni
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Message 229 of 264 (478928)
08-22-2008 3:54 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by brendatucker
08-21-2008 2:56 PM


Re: Christianity
Do you see how elements of truth can be revealed through many individuals, even those who are not smart or are not accomplished?
If you could point out where this ahs happened I would be obliged.
...kindnesses, counsel, promptings that make them act extraordinary.
On a personal level sure. But not on a scientific level.
I tried to answer you, but you didn't see any difference between a world religion and a fictional story.
This is why scientist will have no part of the seven race theory. For the same reason they have no part of religion. To somebody who is not religious [b]all religions are fiction[/qs]. That's why you get nowhere with your mission.
Do you understand?

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Larni
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Message 230 of 264 (478929)
08-22-2008 4:00 AM
Reply to: Message 228 by brendatucker
08-21-2008 3:01 PM


Re: Why me?
It's not an everyday event that we have a challenger for Darwin.
Rubbish. Darwin attackers are two a penny. Check out this thread on this very site which I assure you is very current.
http://EvC Forum: Status Report: The Invulnerable Refutation of Darwinism -->EvC Forum: Status Report: The Invulnerable Refutation of Darwinism
Take some time to read through and please take note how the posters on this thread are bending over backwards to see your point of view in the politest of ways.
See what happens to other people who insist they are right without presenting evidence.
You are relatively new here so some of us feel there could be some point in persuading you to think in a more open minded way.
You don't want to end up like Ray, a frothing bitter loon.
Then it becomes a problem of finding out whether or not there are Christian organizations or scientists who can make use of any of it. Maybe they can and maybe they can't. We shall see.
You have already seen!!! The xians call you heretic and scientist don't pay your ideas any attention. How many more years will you waste on your failed, doomed mission?
Edited by Larni, : More stuff...it's a slow morning.
Edited by Larni, : Slow brain day.

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brendatucker
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Message 231 of 264 (479228)
08-25-2008 3:05 PM


Keep studying
You might be interested in this link which could open a door for me into the International Headquarters of The Theosophical Society in Adyar, India. Nice of you to help me make some headway with this important information that could help the students of theosophy and other spiritual disciplines to become better prepared for the outcome.
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brendatucker
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Message 232 of 264 (479230)
08-25-2008 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Larni
08-22-2008 3:54 AM


Scientists taking part
A scientist can have a part in religion and I'll tell you how.
Science is an occupation. Once your work day is over, you are free to become part of groups that do not practice science. You only need to adhere to strict discipline while engaging in the work that requires it.
Also, those who are not welcome recipients of the girasas kingdom yet can certainly recognize that it is a task that is set upon after careful consideration of all that is occurring in their life and the effect that it may have upon their relationships with others and life plans.
As a scientist, you can view the other professions or activities as contributory to the world's safekeeping and therefore as positive events. When people attempt to answer life's big questions by postulating and pursuing a girasas kingdom, you are free to consider what they say without ever needing to pass judgement, because thankfully you are not being asked as a scientist to occupy yourself with their care or needs.
However as a human being without full blown or gestational use of the girasas kingdom, you may wish to present yourself as a human of inestimable worth all the same, because there are so many plans for the future that we know not of. It wouldn't be seemly for everyone to participate with this kingdom now and leave so much work for the future without a guarantee of getting done.
We need to move slowly towards having them present in us and our lives, testing, questioning, debating all the while so that we do not unnecessarily endanger ourselves or others. Watching what happens to the few that make these claims could be of great value in helping others to approach these new horizons with fewer mistakes and less suffering.
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brendatucker
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Message 233 of 264 (479231)
08-25-2008 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Larni
08-22-2008 4:00 AM


Re: Why me?
You certainly don't need all of the children to work in the sciences and so you should feel willing and pleased that some of us are privileged to work in other occupations that require less strenuous adherence to work practices that would ensure reliable results.
Some of our children should be freed and encouraged to pursue their dreams in light of recent findings in a way that does not take scientists out of their comfort zones, and in this way we allow a few to continue on slightly steeper paths to human understanding than science presently affords us with.
Do you understand?
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brendatucker
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Message 234 of 264 (479232)
08-25-2008 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Larni
08-22-2008 4:00 AM


Re: Why me?
You are so good and kind to try to help me get along here, but you see, what I really want to do is get back to where I am loved, wanted, and accepted more whole heartedly.
I am so glad I took time out of my schedule with "enlightenment" seeking to come and talk to you. It is really important to me that everyone of you makes an "informed" decision about your life and doesn't trust anyone - church or state - to make that decision for you.
I really did come here out of a desire to create a "moral" ease among all peoples. If you know what we are doing, you do not need to be afraid that we are not respecting or honoring your decisions about your life.
Now that I have been free to speak out here, I am a bit more content that when I ask Ascended Masters to force purification and destroy all that is human, etc., you will be ready to either thwart my afronts upon you or receive them with pleasure. I did not intend to enter this "path towards spiritual evolution" in a way that would cause any harm or detriment to you and your goals and dreams.
What I want for myself shouldn't have to be a dictate for all of the others alive today. It is possible to promote tolerance, good will, and brotherly love even when vastly different estimations of value are encountered.
So once I will have encouraged openness so that no one doing what I am doing ever has to be afraid that you will find us lacking in forthrightness and kind regard, I will be done. Not having to continue under a cloak of secrecy would be such a pleasure, that maybe I don't deserve it. Is that what you think? Do you think I don't deserve to speak honestly about intents and practices that could (or may not) effect you and others like you who have your own dreams for the future, based on testing?
I just want you to know what we are about so we can meet each other prepared.

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brendatucker
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Message 235 of 264 (479233)
08-25-2008 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Larni
08-22-2008 4:00 AM


Re: Why me?
And perhaps you just want me to know that I will be shot down, eh?

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Larni
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Message 236 of 264 (479239)
08-25-2008 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by brendatucker
08-25-2008 3:39 PM


Re: Why me?
And perhaps you just want me to know that I will be shot down, eh?
Bingo!
You gain nothing with you current life strategy.

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brendatucker
Member (Idle past 5129 days)
Posts: 168
From: West Hills, CA
Joined: 05-22-2008


Message 237 of 264 (479243)
08-25-2008 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by Larni
08-25-2008 4:07 PM


Re: Why me?
Is it because so many humans would hear about girasas and refuse them admittance, even if there was evidence that they exist?

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Larni
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Message 238 of 264 (479248)
08-25-2008 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 237 by brendatucker
08-25-2008 4:17 PM


Re: Why me?
Is it because so many humans would hear about girasas and refuse them admittance, even if there was evidence that they exist?
No. If there was evidence that girasas was real people would accept them.
Provide evidence of girasas and people will believe.

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brendatucker
Member (Idle past 5129 days)
Posts: 168
From: West Hills, CA
Joined: 05-22-2008


Message 239 of 264 (479251)
08-25-2008 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Larni
08-25-2008 4:23 PM


Re: Why me?
How can you attempt to speak for all people? I know they are varied and unpredictable.

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brendatucker
Member (Idle past 5129 days)
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From: West Hills, CA
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Message 240 of 264 (479252)
08-25-2008 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Larni
08-25-2008 4:23 PM


Re: Why me?
People alive today actually try to get to heaven. Do you think that is wrong?

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