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Author Topic:   What is the appeal of evolution?
ReverendDG
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Message 52 of 75 (351998)
09-25-2006 3:28 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Dr Adequate
09-22-2006 8:06 PM


I thought it was obvious. If evolution is true, there's no God; if there's no God, we can eat babies.
god has to not exist for us to eat babies? what about fetuses?
i like to snack on a few while i do stem cell research
what about cruxifying children and drinking their blood is that allowed?

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ReverendDG
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Message 53 of 75 (351999)
09-25-2006 3:36 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by mick
09-25-2006 2:02 AM


Re: I'll Play
I may be wrong here, but didn't creationism exist prior to the establishment of evolutionary theory as a part of science? I was under the impression that for a few thousand years human beings had followed the doctrines of one church another, never questioning the veracity of the claims of religious "experts". It was only when evolutionary theory became an established part of science that laypersons really took up arms in understanding their own beliefs about biology. It was only when laypeople rejected the authority of witchdoctors and actually started to question things for themselves that the "controversy" began.
nah this is revisionism creationists are trying to claim as history, many church fathers didn't believe any of the things creationists believe now. augustine thought to take the bible as 100% fact is denying the world around us and not using our own minds
most people before the 20th century may have thought somethings had happend like the gospels, but not genesis or the flood
what really makes evolution popular i guess is it gives you another answer to the questions being asked, and more answers to questions the religlions can't answer
For creationists to pretend that they are the new kid on the block, fighting against an authoritarian structure of knowledge in the form of "Darwinism", is to read history upside down.
well the idea of god creating the earth is pretty old, but its nothing remotly like what we have now on the board.

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ReverendDG
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Message 54 of 75 (352000)
09-25-2006 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
09-22-2006 4:04 PM


Percy, please tell me this is satire and not really what you think
this sounds right out of the fundie handbook of paranoid arguments and PRATTS
i invoke poe's law!
Poe's law - Wikipedia
"Without the use of a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to make a parody of Fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing."

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ReverendDG
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Message 56 of 75 (352006)
09-25-2006 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Hyroglyphx
09-24-2006 8:42 PM


Re: I'll Play
How much investigation does the average student give in ascertaining the veractiy of such claims? Not many. Who would challenge it? On what merits would they question it in the first place? In fact, I think it would be a safe assumption to presuppose that it wasn't until creationism reared its face on the scene that the laymen really took up arms in understanding their own beliefs about biology.
you are giving creationism too much credit, waaaay too much. the fact is to question the theory you have to understand it first, going by what creation considers evolution, i doubt anyone is going to learn a damn thing from creatonists
in high school you have to learn it first,there is so much to learn you only get part of it till college. the basics help you to understand it, if you want to. the rest comes from college mostly i think
most people don't care,unless the anti-evo people say they will get their rights taken away or die or something

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ReverendDG
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Message 71 of 75 (352279)
09-26-2006 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by robinrohan
09-25-2006 6:01 PM


Evolution has a romantic appeal that fits very well with the science-fiction crazed culture of our time
for someone who claims to know anything about the ToE, its really sad you bring up the x-men monster strawman of evolution
come on robin, this is a bunch of BS and you know it, people love to paint science as magic if they don't understand it. that has nothing to do with the science, that has to do with people thinking that there is a magic pill that can solve all their problems at once.
"The dark backward and abysm of time"--it sends a shiver down one's spine to think of all those eons when monsters roamed around. Thus the popularity of such shows as Jurassic Park. It's a fashion.
is this even relevent? what are you even talking about?

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ReverendDG
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Message 75 of 75 (352449)
09-26-2006 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by robinrohan
09-26-2006 7:16 AM


I'm talking about the appeal of evolution, not its technicalities. That's the question asked in the OP. Some subjects have an exotic appeal. Now stories from the Bible have no appeal at all to the modern sensibility. One thinks of all those hideous Medieval paintings.
that is the appeal robin, people think evolution and science can cure all thier problems at once and forever, at least the laymen think so
it is changing though, now we have ID and creationism looking to appeal to the fear in people instead

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