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Omnivorous
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Message 15 of 79 (286379)
02-14-2006 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by rgb
02-14-2006 1:41 AM


Different solution, not a superior one
I'm leery of "lower" and "higher" comparisons of animals.
Perhaps it is more useful to think in terms of different strategies. Some creatures rely on producing mass quantities of young and provide no postnatal care whatsoever; some creatures produce single or few young at a time and invest tremendous amounts in their survival. Pretty much every strategic approach between these two extremes is utilized. I suspect the differences can be accounted for by the ecological contexts--past and present--in which each organism evolved.
As to the emotional state: perhaps the question is upside down. What is it about the physiological response which produces the emotion that is useful to the defending parent? Consider our own adrenaline rush and its conferral of hyperalertness, sharper response times, inurement to pain, heightened strength: the emotional element is our experience of that state.
As to more complex emotional experiences, I think the Rev is right on about their roots in our social existence.

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Message 18 of 79 (287248)
02-16-2006 9:29 AM
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02-16-2006 4:38 AM


Re: Different solution, not a superior one
This I disagree with, or at least the idea that we have more complex emotional experiences. We may have the ability to handle more emotions at once and so face conflicts, but I'm not certain how any single emotion is more complex than anything else.
I agree, Holmes. Perhaps "compound" would have been a better term than "complex."
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Message 21 of 79 (288073)
02-18-2006 11:48 AM
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Re: Different solution, not a superior one
The superiority claim is, indeed, a nonstarter. I'll skip that one.
The basic molecular mechanisms in brain are common to man and animals. Therefore, study of animals regarding the brain function should be identical to humans.
Yes, we would expect some commonality amongst all animals in terms of brain function. Even the tiniest insect brain has some commonality with ours, reptiles a bit more, mammals much more, and the other apes a great deal.
Does that work for you for starters?

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