D&D and satanisim

Wow! Yaro, I never saw this thread before when you first posted it.And now about the Christians. The mindset of belief is different for us. We believe that trusting in Gods Spirit to guide our imagination is preferable to imagining ones own life. It does not mean we are zombies, or unthinking zealots. It means that God always gets the final say...not a roll of some "fate" dice.In the case of D&D, however, there were several gothic type "depressed" kids who got in trouble and were linked to D&D so it was naturally assumed that the D&D caused the behavior. This is not true as the kids were depressed beforehand. My close friends played D&D and I used to watch them. It is a roleplaying game and nothing more.As any good Christian kid is taught, God assigns us our roles and duties in life...we do not choose our destiny. For one who was forced to go to Christian school and church and then later becomes a freethinker who is unshackled from the restraints of organized religion, imagining ones role, position, and influence becomes intoxicatingly empowering! Its a classic clash of the worldviews,here! Yes, Fundies can be prudes but you have to remember our belief system. One follows "the devil" merely by refusing to bow to the authority of God. There is no middle ground. The devil asserts that ye shall be as gods...ye shall imagine and create your world and your destiny...ye shall be your own boss!This appeals to freethinkers everywhere! Nobody wants to be accountable to a Deity!To you, it matters little, because God is not a part of your belief.To us, God is in charge regardless of what you or I believe. Absolute truth IS. Always WAS. Always will be. The serpant Was.(as Lucifer.) IS NOT because there is only one God...one Spirit...yet will come for those whose names are not written in the book of life. Why is it always that humans like heroes who are in control and dislike heroes...such as Jesus...who are humble and bow to a superior source? There is no such thing as neutral. For or against. Black or white. No middle ground. Toodles? Is not Toodles the High Priest of Insanity? Well said. Except for that spell that turned you into a roadfrog....This message has been edited by Phatboy, 03-02-2005 00:55 AM

It is all in the intent. If someone who never had a belief in God was playing D&D or actually doing something mischevious like cursing people with a voodoo doll, for example...they would perhaps not have the intent of going against God since they never believed in God. IF..however...someone knew full well what they believed and then did something against that belief they would be more liable.You can get away with calling Jesus an egomaniac since you see him as a mere man.If I dissed Him like that, I would be cursing my God. Unless He actually IS God! This message has been edited by Phatboy, 03-02-2005 10:28 AM

No, Rrhainman! I am clarifying my position. Neutrality is impossible for a believer but not for a relativist who refuses to bow to any absolute not defined by themself.
I DO have to scramble a bit when faced with your logic. You are not stupid by any means, yet I liken the battle of wits with you as fighting with a man who wins lots of battles while losing the war.You have claimed to be a "believer" in the past. How do you put it?
That you just believe in god but not MY god?
You have yet to describe your "god" to us, and I suspect it is because this god concept is really framed by your own logic. In other words, you are a deity within your own mind. If I am wrong, kindly explain your deity to the rest of us.Many fundies who claim to know God make this mistake and are far worse than you are at it.Am I correct in assuming that you believe human wisdom to be the origin of all concepts and beliefs?This message has been edited by Phatboy, 03-02-2005 10:30 AM

I ask Rrhain: Rrhain replies:
"I refuse to say."

All that evil is is the absence of God. Imagination is freely chosen, but every decision we make involves a communion of sorts. We either commune with our inner conscience or we commune with the imagination of an author, a script, a movie, or a game. At least thats how I see it, anyway.

No its the thinking process. Anytime someone attempts to imagine their own power and control, evil is afoot. Im tongue-in-cheek on D&D being harmful. Its no worse than many other things people do that subconsciously Deifies our minds and causes us to become our own god, so to speak.

I could well be serious. This whole idea of humans empowering themselves to move beyond the "myth" of God will eventually lead to more problems than cleaning up global fundamentalism will solve.My argument rests on my belief that humans are incapable of making altruistic decisions beyond serving their own interests.We are supposed to think and reason, but to dismiss the need for God in everyday life will prove to be a costly mistake.