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desdamona
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Message 301 of 306 (101259)
04-20-2004 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Melchior
04-20-2004 2:37 PM


Re: Another Christian seeking the Truth?
I don't believe that I'm against it.
I have seen patterns in a womans fertility cycle and so have,
many,many Doctors.
A great book to learn about BBT and fertilty is called:
Taking Charge of Your Fertlity by:Toni Weschler,MPH
This woman also teaches women how to avoid pregnancy naturally,
by watching signs from your body.
It does work.I'm not the only woman who uses her advise.
Women are great examples of a great design.
Men are not simple creatures either.
People can also trace their family history with DNA,and
it's pretty neat how far back it can go.
Blood tests can tell us if we are native American or if we,
are jewish also.
We are all related to some degree,but we are also very different.
These two exist at the same time.
Alike and different.

Desdamona

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coffee_addict
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Message 302 of 306 (101264)
04-20-2004 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by desdamona
04-20-2004 3:18 PM


Re: Another Christian seeking the Truth?
I know that I said I would not reply any further unless you tell me something more than your assertions.
desdamona writes:
I believe that DNA and RNA shows that intelligence created us.
I believe we were planned,and that someone greater than us put,
us here.
I believe that DNA has shown that we are wonerfully and fearfully-
made by a loving creator.
I cannot make others believe that,but it's what I truly believe.
I know that the public schools now teach evolution,although many,
are trying to get christianity taught in schools on an equal time,
I do believe it could be useful in helping me understand more.
Biology is something that is also very much like a miracle that even-
Doctors claim they don't fully understand.
I have had 5 children,and have been told by Doctors that the miracle,
of life is still a miacle to them.
They do not fully understand everything about the making of a baby.
I have seen a video where evolution has tried to explain it.It -
showed that life came from the Ocean or the sea.
If Doctors are still in awe over the miracle of life,that tells me,
alot.
Archealogists have given their lives to God after finding things that
support the holy bible,and these are highly inteligent people.
DNA forms a certain pattern in a sequence.I believe this suggests also,that it was designed.
The butterfly is such a beautiful creation,that it hardly seems like,
a random act of existence to me.There is so much beauty in creation,
and life that it doesn't make sense to me that it all happened by -
chance or accident.
DNA= data not accidental
Many scientists say that matter does not produce life.
Professor Fred Hoyle said: if there were a basic principle of matter,
which somehow drove organic systems toward life,it's existence should easily be demonstrated in the laboratory.
If matter were capable of giving of giving rise to life on it's own,
then it should be possible to synthesise life in laboratory conditions. However,not even one organelle in a cell can be reproduced in the laboratory,let alone a complete cell.
Modern science has revealed that there is a design in nature.
When I was trying to become pregnant,I would take my BBT (basal body temperature) every morning. Like clock work,a definate pattern would-
form every month,whether I concieved or not.When I did become pregnant,my temperature would stay higher than normal until some time after the child was born.
The pattern of these temperatures is amazing.
Most women will see this happen if they still ovulate.
I have used BBT for many years.
If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant she really cannot get much,
use from it,except to know when she will have her next period.
It's highly accurate in telling a woman if she is fertile or not in
any given month.
If my period were to be late,and I took my temperatures all month,I'd
know why,I would either be pregnant or know I was just late,but I would know one way or the other.
The BBT method is very useful,but can be a chore at first until you,
get use to it.
Many women have babies everyday,and population is still going strong,
so for most women it will work very well.
The pattern in BBT shows us that a womans body is very unique,and very different from a mans body.
Women are made a certain way,and I personally believe we were made,
on purpose.Men who take their temperatures have seen that this cannot
be used accurately on them.
Pregnancy tests that determine the hormone found in pregnancy called HCG can be detected in the urine fairly soon after pregnancy.
Accident? I think not.
Pregnancy has three stages.The life of the unborn baby is amazing.
The baby's nose is plugged for the 9 months of life,and it's lungs are not fully developed yet until shortly before birth.,yet it can still live. The Mothers blood never mixes with her babies blood.
This to me is a miracle.The mothers body normally won't reject her baby,yet her body will reject other foriegn bodies.
Life is amazing!
Have you ever taken a logic class? Everything you just wrote there (this is a big EVERYTHING) is a conclusion. There is not a single premise in there that I can see. There absolutely not a single support for all those conclusions.
By the way, I'm sorry for nitpicking this, but I just don't understand how someone with such bad grammar and spelling skills to be a poet.
My head is going to explode!

The Laminator

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04-20-2004 4:06 PM


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coffee_addict
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Message 304 of 306 (101276)
04-20-2004 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by desdamona
04-20-2004 3:39 PM


Re: Another Christian seeking the Truth?
Desdamona,
Although you may think that making unsupported assertions is good enough, most of us here don't agree. Whenever someone make a claim about something, and it doesn't matter if he's a buddhist or evolutionist or whatever, we will come down on him for not showing us any evidence. What you have done in this thread is make a bunch of assertions without any kind of evidence that we can see.
It is not because you are a creationist that bothers me. It is that you are trying to convince us to stop thinking and take your unsupported claims at face value, and we will not do that. I still don't understand what part of show us the evidence don't you understand.
You are lucky you are not participating in a debate at my philosophy association. If you were, I would have told you to go away for making a million claims without any evidence to back them up. Notice that not a single other creationist rallied to your defense. That should tell you something.
Anyway, have a nice life.
[This message has been edited by Lam, 04-20-2004]

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desdamona
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Message 305 of 306 (101277)
04-20-2004 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 302 by coffee_addict
04-20-2004 4:00 PM


Re: Another Christian seeking the Truth?
While your head is exploding,please pick up the pieces and see,
if they can evolve.
Also,I would suggest that you get a dictionary,and use it.
NATURE IS FACT!!!
NATURE SUPPORTS GOD!!!!
thats how I see it,and it's your life,you may disagree,but a
teacher you are not.
What is the strongest bit of evidence that you have that you didn't,
get from a scientist who doesn't believe in God.
Do you accept the claims made by christian scientists?
What about the non-christian scientists who don't believe in,
evolution?
It seems that you only pick,choose,and select who you will believe.
I stress "WHO" because I know you probably don't have a laboratory,
and you haven't been able to prove your ideas,or you would have the evidence to support your claims here.

Desdamona

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Message 306 of 306 (101283)
04-20-2004 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 305 by desdamona
04-20-2004 4:21 PM


Re: Another Christian seeking the Truth?

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