Pointless to argue with creationists

Creationists like the dinosaurs will disapear sooner or later thanks to their inability to adapt. Why argue with them, just preserve some in a nature reserve in the interests of scientific study.

This is a brilliant statement. Smart like brilliant stick. Witty and cutting i cried, all hope is lost, God doesn't exist, we're all going down the bible is a farce. AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! oh no!HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!Man has officially made his own dirt from his own materials all from nothing.HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
When you can give me some evidence that isn't a fragment of bone from mmmmmiiiiilllllllliiiiiooons of years ago which you have extrapalated into graphs charts and a collection of Dr. Seuss pictures to support this lie. Assuming everything in a desperate attempt to ....ah hell HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH A HA!
get your own dirt!smart like quick dumb brick stickbased on a column that doesn't exist, and a process we don't see anywhere.[This message has been edited by funkmasterfreaky, 11-24-2002]

"Creationists like the dinosaurs will disapear sooner or later thanks to their inability to adapt. Why argue with them, just preserve some in a nature reserve in the interests of scientific study."
--Because some are willing to adapt and evolve. You should read some of my arguments from back in the day... ------------------

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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
This is a brilliant statement. Smart like brilliant stick. Witty and cutting i cried, all hope is lost, God doesn't exist, we're all going down the bible is a farce. AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! oh no!

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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

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Man has officially made his own dirt from his own materials all from nothing.

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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
When you can give me some evidence that isn't a fragment of bone from mmmmmiiiiilllllllliiiiiooons of years ago which you have extrapalated into graphs charts and a collection of Dr. Seuss pictures to support this lie. Assuming everything in a desperate attempt to ....

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ah hell HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH A HA!
get your own dirt!

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smart like quick dumb brick stick

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based on a column that doesn't exist, and a process we don't see anywhere.

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Fine advert for the faith this is.Metatron didn't say God doesn't exist or that the Bible is a farce - he may well think so, but actually he was talking about creationism. Your inability to distinguish the two issues is your intellectual problem; don't project it onto others.I'm interested to know that all the fossils in all the natural history museums and university collections around the globe are only "a few fragments of bone", although I'm glad you acknowledge they are millions of years old. Progress at last!The best extrapolations of graphs I've seen are those used by creationists to try to prove c-decay. And the best "Dr Seuss pictures" (apart from those by the great Dr Seuss himself) are those created by the likes of Duane Gish to try to demonstrate that terrestrial/whale transitions are impossible. I wonder if, now we have fossils of Ambulocetus, he's still peddling his silly cow/whale illustration?The geological column most certainly does exist, and if you gave a shit for finding out the truth (which of course you don't; feeling smug that you've already got "the truth" and we're all stupid fools for not believing what you believe is far more comfortable and what your itching ears want to hear) you'd be able to find out exactly where it can be found in situ. All the processes required by evolution are observed today. Which ones do you think are not?

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Originally posted by Karl:
Fine advert for the faith this is.

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Yes, indeedie funk. Why do you think the divine madness impresses anyone?------------------
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Why do you think dr seuss drawings a half brained theories convince anyone? I love this free for all. Anyway creation is biblical whether you like it or not. To deny creation is to say the bible is a farce.

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Why do you think dr seuss drawings a half brained theories convince anyone? I love this free for all. Anyway creation is biblical whether you like it or not. To deny creation is to say the bible is a farce.

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The Bible is a farce.... [This message has been edited by joz, 11-25-2002]

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Yes, indeedie funk. Why do you think the divine madness impresses anyone?

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This madness is anything but divine it was actually a human reaction to the consistent baseless mockery of ideas that go on here. It annoys me to no end. Then i find myself making posts like the last few i have made which i should not. I thought the original statement was ignorant on this thread and deserved no more than an ignorant answer.I have stated before i don't profess to perfection. I am not perfect and i still have a temper. I honestly don't see a basis for any of these ideas where the world came from. And to think anything can be proven when you can't go back and look at it is ridiculous. This is the standard i am held to. I intend to hold others to it as well. I still think we all take ourselves to seriously and pride really gets in the way here. I know it gets in my way. Hence the posts above.I guess i fell into a trap here this thread was posted just as a piss off and i fell in. Tis okay , and yet again i must apologize. This humble pie doesn't taste to good. I think i'm full.

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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
Why do you think dr seuss drawings a half brained theories convince anyone?

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I don't but creationist keep trying to use the drawings anyway.Besides, Dr. Seuss was a damn sight more insightful than creation scientists.

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Anyway creation is biblical whether you like it or not.

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LOL..... You think I will argue whether or not it is BIBLICAL?

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To deny creation is to say the bible is a farce.

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Ok. The Bible is a farce, and a farce of the worst most vicious, and, dare I say evil, kind.------------------
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Besides, Dr. Seuss was a damn sight more insightful than creation scientists

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LOL... much funny i would agree as my wife and i are oft in disagreement with both sides of the coin. We both think they are both out to lunch and ought to get their heads checked. btw Dr. Seuss i think was more insightful than just about any scientist, philosopher, of any kind. Have you ever seen his actual art . Absolutely incredible stuff, makes you wonder how he ended up doing childrens literature. Well not really wonder as in our house we are very artistic both audio and visual, and know that you can't make a living on actual arts. Only pop mainstream soul-less garbage, cloned from one sincere artist who happened to draw some attention.Oh the creation=biblical comment was in response to someone saying the bible had not been attacked in the statement made to start this wonderfully useless conversation i have involved myself in. LOL... Moreover that i have turned into a useless conversation, by responding in such ignorance... oh it does seem dumb right now, much funny. Well at least we have given some credit to the wonder that was Dr. Seuss. ------------------
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The Bible hadn't been attacked until you insisted on conflating creationism with it.Now we're on a more even keel, could you address the points about all these fossils being "a few fragments of bone", and the Dr Seuss pictures of your creationist mentors.You see no basis for these ideas about where the world came from (i.e. the Big Bang). Have you looked? Do you know what Cosmic Background Radiation is? Do you know what red shift is? If the answer is yes, let me know why they don't support the Big Bang. If the answer is no, then you can hardly complain about not knowing something you've not researched.

I have admitted many times to not having extensive scientific knowledge though my wife is at times able to explain such things to me, however i do not stay unknowledgeable, my mother was a wise woman and taught us to think and to enjoy learning. I take great joy from learning things and i have even since i started discussing on here already gone out of my way to learn a great deal more about science and the scientific process. This is why i stay mainly in faith and belief. However at the time that i saw the original statement i had read quite enough pompus talk on the idiocy of my beliefs. When i know no-one with a time machine to prove any such theories. What went bang? I've never seen an explosion cause order. And there is no evidence that matter has this ability to create thought and reason. These to me are fairly gargantuan holes. I just don't know how evolution can be held as so much better an explanation.

[QUOTE][B]When i know no-one with a time machine to prove any such theories.[/QUOTE][/B]People are executed when a preponderance of evidence supports that they are guilty, even with no surviving witnesses. [QUOTE][B]I've never seen an explosion cause order[/QUOTE][/B]Big bang didn't cause order, it simply spread matter around. "Order" is the consequence of the laws of physics and matter trying to reach the lowest-energy configuration, gravity, for example, is why the planets in the Solar System go about their relatively circular orbits (which are predictable because bodies in the system that were too eccentric tended to get ejected or consumed by impact). Even something as seemingly ordered as Saturn's Rings are the consequences of explainable physics and there are credible causes (a satellite passing within the planet's Roche limit). [QUOTE][B]And there is no evidence that matter has this ability to create thought and reason.[/QUOTE][/B]Matter has no intrinsic ability to "create" but may be ordered into brains by the process of evolution.

How? show me the chain of evolution that leads to thought. Or to anything for that matter.

[QUOTE][B]How? show me the chain of evolution that leads to thought. Or to anything for that matter.[/QUOTE][/B]You'll find several pages on it at talkorigins.orgWhile you're here maybe you can explain what H. erectus is if we did not evolve.