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Author | Topic: Is macroevolution a religion? Should we rename it evolutiontarianism? | |||||||||||||||||||||||
joshua221  Inactive Member |
"That was an incredibly offensive, unjustified insult that I insist you either justify or retract."
It's better then being called a flat-earther... The earth is flat.
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Um, OK. What does this have to do with anything being discussed in this thread?
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kendemyer Inactive Member |
I believe you are failing to adequately address the central issue of a previous post of mine. Namely, Darwin fish do preach evolution via bumperstickers and we simply do not see this as much in other areas of alledged/real science. For example, I have never seen any of the products that were mentioned on your links. Not one! Darwin fish are fairly common though and not one person here has said, "What is a Darwin fish?". Hence, they are common.
If you want to do a poll and see how many people have seen your items that were mentioned via your links please feel free to do so. I, however, have never seen any of them. Sincerely, Ken < [This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-22-2004]
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1393 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
With election time approaching here in the USSA, I gather Ken will start thinking we live in a theocracy.
regards,Esteban "Honk If You're Inerrant" Hambre
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kendemyer Inactive Member |
Mr. Hambre:
The whole world is a theocracy. God still sits on the throne although He does allow human and angelic freedom although not total freedom. I am looking for a better state of affairs in the future when those who oppose God are no longer in a position to have much effect on believers though. Ultimately though, even the unpleasant things that happen to believers (robberies, etc) can cause believers to become more like Christ if we respond to them in a judicious manner. Sincerely, Ken [This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-22-2004]
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I think the "Darwin Fish" can be looked upon several different ways.
Just as a general joke, or as a scientific statement against creationism, or as a Christian theological statement against creationism. Only the third has religious implications. Maybe the bearer of the "Darwin Fish" is expressing that s/he is a non-fundamentalist Christian. Moose
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JonF Member (Idle past 168 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I am looking for a better state of affairs in the future when those who oppose God are no longer in a position to have much effect on believers though Ah, you're one of the really dangerous ones who wants to overturn the U.S. Constitution.
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kendemyer Inactive Member |
To: JonF
The US Constitution has a reference to Jesus, but no reference to atheism. The Constitution says, "in the year of our Lord". Why would I want to overthrow the US Constitution which was exclusively or at a bare minumum predominently authored and signed by theist rather than professed atheist? Also, do not forget shortly after the constitution was signed, the government authorized a senate chaplain (I believe it was in the 1780's). If I wanted atheistic government I would move to North Korea. Sincerely, Ken [This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-22-2004]
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
like theocracy?
think US discriminates against your faith? move to Iran. or quiteyerbitchin we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1393 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
I would certainly never live in a theocracy that didn't allow angelic freedom. There is a difference, you know.
regards,Esteban "Halo" Hambre
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
No I don't know. The theocracy is only a "good idea" to those who think they are on the approved track of the theocracy.
Problem is that the {will of god} needs to be interpreted by {man} to impliment. As yet, I know of no single person who has that line of communication. It become rule by deluded whim ... eventually. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I believe you are failing to adequately address the central issue of a previous post of mine. Namely, Darwin fish do preach evolution via bumperstickers and we simply do not see this as much in other areas of alledged/real science. And the central issue that you have failed to address is that bumper stickers don't connote religion. The majority of bumper stickers I see are political in nature. Is politics religion? Is the Republican Party a church?
For example, I have never seen any of the products that were mentioned on your links. I, on the other hand, have seen many of them. I submit that you have, too, but have simply forgotten because it wouldn't be convienient to your ideology to remember.
I, however, have never seen any of them. It of course doesn't matter a whit, because bumper stickers aren't religious, they're universally either political or humorous. The Darwin Fish is a funny satire. It's not a religious text. You've failed to substaniate a connection between bumper stickers and religion. Your position is refuted for the third time.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
"murderous taliban", Ring a bell?
The earth is flat.
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kendemyer Inactive Member |
I believe the darwin fish show that some evolutionist are zealots who wish to preach their message. It is like a false religion. I would say that darwinism is window dressing for materialism that has no real empirical support. I simply do not see this type of group behavior manifest by other pseudoscience/science areas that is so manifestly shown by darwinist and which can be readily seen by darwin fish. I realize the word religion has many meanings. I am using this one which is mentioned by http://www.dictionary.com:
"A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." I believe darwinism is a false religion. Sincerely, Ken
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I believe the darwin fish show that some evolutionist are zealots who wish to preach their message. Having known several people with darwin fish on their cars, I believe that the darwin fish shows that some people are wiseasses who like to poke fun at religion. I've spoken to a number of people on the subject. Have you? Or is it enough for your ideology to just make assumptions about motivations?
I simply do not see this type of group behavior manifest by other pseudoscience/science areas that is so manifestly shown by darwinist and which can be readily seen by darwin fish. To the contrary, you have seen it, because I showed it to you.
I believe darwinism is a false religion. A belief which colors your entire view and blinds you to the counterevidence I have presented, which is ample. Ignoring rebuttals and repeating unsupported assertions is against the forum guidelines.
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