Longest Land Meridian

Oh, right. It's the latest atheist conspiracy - numbers.

Perfectly confirms my claim that to acknowledge any of it refutes your entire worldview and its nonsense.Somebody is totally right - nothing in between.Because you must assert no evidence is posted - this is obviously verifiable.This confirms the utter fright deep within yourself as to how deceived you are.The Bible is proven correct either way - as your total God-senselessness is clearly evidenced not to mention your massive dishonesty.

When will you "objectively" create a post which crowns yourself the winners ?

I only said that because I was told the same concerning my evidence in "Proof of God".But mine were measurements - it didn't matter though.

Anybody can measure a map, which is what you're being asked to do.The only people that can measure the pyramids are people who are actually there.

Even you can check the numbers and falsify them or not. All you have to do is start by determining if the GP is or is not about 112 miles from the coast.That is as complicted as it gets. It is about as simple as is conceivable. If you think this is "complicated numbers" then you are saying something about yourself that I would think you would rather avoid saying.Now pick up the ruler, find a map and make a measurement. Would you like more detailed instructions? You know what a ruler is? Can you read that little scale thing they put on maps? Is there some further simplification that you need?Why don't you get some expert help? Drop by a grade school class of about 9 or 10 year olds. They will probably have been taught how to read distance off a map. They should be of assistance with the "complicated numbers". LOL ROFL LOL LOL LOLYou have a choice WT.Admit that your source was wrong on this one thing (at least) or look like an utter fool. Recognizing your error is the first step to actually learning something. That is the honest and honourable course. The other path isn't where you want to go.Thank you for starting this whole thing off and then ending up in such a grand way. I had some hope that you would learn. I couldn't have asked for you to wrap this up in such a wonderful red ribbon. Thank you, thank you. This message has been edited by NosyNed, 10-27-2004 02:53 AM

Two of my three sources measured the GP in Egypt. The third confirmed the exactitude of the two. One measured via metric the other British inches corrected by 1/1000th of an inch per inch.My opponents want a different standard applied to Lindum, whereas my three sources and their irrefutable evidence is summarily ignored.Lindum is making unsupported assertions with no outside source involved.There is no way to verify any of Lindums assertions, especially the ultra-scientific method proposed of using a ruler and whatever map of the world at your disposal. LOL LOLThe only thing going on is this idiot argument that has all of you feigning to know with certainty the exact distance of a LLM via a ruler and anyone who doesn't agree is insulted.The truth is none of you know with any explainable certainty the distance of a meridian via a ruler. None of you can verify each claim of distance by Lindum. Yet the Geo-Physical Orbiting Satellite data of 1957 and 1958 measured the polar diameter of the Earth a distance divisible by 500,000,000 British inches corrected to its true length by extending it 1/1000th of an inch = evidence scientifically determined yet completely ignored ONLY BECAUSE YOUR WORLDVIEW HAS NOTHING TO GAIN AND EVERYTHING TO LOSE.How can the complicated ascertaining of distances be known without any source yet the three sources who confirm the height of the GP be dismissed ?Answer: Allegiance to dogma of ones worldview under the guise that you are open to all scientific evidence.The height was and has been proven. The claim of knowing the LLM and the refusal to recognize much more simple evidence = pure fear of the truth and inescapable dishonesty.Romans 1 God-sense removal is proven to be irrevocable.

I have learned a great deal about your completely dishonest character.A ruler and a map - LOL LOL LOL !Your avoidance of the height evidence and the unit of measurement while clinging to the assertions of someone called Lindum = confirmed double standard rooted in dishonesty.

We haven't gotten to the details of the height yet. That has the problem, as has been noted a bunch of times that we can't check it ourselves. This thread is about the simpler case of the length of the GP's "land meridian". Going on and on about the height in this thread is not answering the issue of that length.We will, if you wish to open a thread and show the details of the measurements, discuss the height in another thread.This one is about the land meridian.It appears you don't like Lindum's measurements. Fine. Show your own, get a map and measure it. That is the way that science works. This is a small scale, simple example of how an issue is actually settled with evidence.We all have access to maps of the world. We can all ( I hope, but am beginning to doubt it) are able to make distance measurements off a map.We have, I think, agreed with your sources definition of what a "land meridian" is.Therefore we all start with the same input information(the data). Now we show our calculations and logic that we use to arrive at a conclusion.We showed you ours. Now you have to show what is wrong with it and show your own. It is so very simple. You have accused us (me) of dishonesty. Exactly where is the lie about the LLM? That is the issue under discussion in this thread.I look forward to you starting a height thread so it can be discussed there. It may have the unfortunate problem that we can't individual check it all out like we can with the LLM so it seemed better to start with something simpler.

I think I understand what's going on in your head, now."I don't get it - I provided some numbers, but they wouldn't accept that as evidence. Now, they're showing me some numbers, and insist that its evidence. How can numbers not be evidence for me, but be evidence for them? It must be a double standard." By what means, if he didn't measure it himself? Sure there is. Get a map and do it yourself. The sources are maps. If you dispute Lindum's numbers, then explain why his map is wrong. Maps are pretty accurate, nowadays.

How else would you measure distance, other than going there yourself?I find it illuminating that you have no rebuttal other than:

The problem with you is there is nothing to gain.You automatically assert no evidence when massive amounts are posted.This is done because the evidence disproves your worldview and its nonsense wholesale.The height evidence is beyond spectacular and massive by volume.Your perfect reaction of "what evidence ?" confirms that it is spectacular and massive.I could make a long list of issues and evidence ignored by just Crashfrog in the latest exchanges and make the point "I wonder why ?"Integrity is a prerequiste to everything, but evos have zero as they must totally ignore everything which refutes their theory = theory based on philosophy and not evidence.You were shown every little detail of many claims and its evidence yet you feign ignorance.I must conclude your only presence in these debates is to disrupt under the threat of Admin action.

Smyth provided a map with his evidence unlike Lindum.You should stick to explaining ID as you did to me and stop defending the scientific method of ruler and map.We have a double standard:Lindum is evidence.But Rutherford, Cole, and Lemesurier is not.The GP is massive physical evidence which falsifies EVERY evo conclusion wholesale.The total lack of any secular scientist studying it (since Petrie and Cole/1925) is because there is nothing to gain for atheist worldview and everthing to lose.The GP is the greatest falsifier of every atheist belief and it is going nowhere and will be used by God to say " I told you so".GP = physical structure which disproves the philosophy and claims of evolution yet it is completely ignored for that reason.How we would rather fight and die for things spoken up for rather than embrace the truth wherever it leads.

Are you haveing a bit of trouble remembering that we are talking about the land meridian here?You have been invited many times over weeks to start other threads on the other individual claims of your sources.You, again, ignore the measurements supplied and don't supply your own.

But Lindum is NOT evidence. His measurements are.All you have to do is step through his measurements and show where they are wrong. It doesn't matter a darn if Lindum or Santa Claus made them.Is the GP about 112 miles from the seacoast or not? It is that simple.The whole rest of your post is, again, a rant that has nothing to do with the measurment of the LLM.You can pick any accurate map of the world you want (or maps of individual areas) and make the measurements.Once again, after many weeks: IS THE GP 112 MILES FROM THE COAST OR NOT? That is a piece of the evidence you have been given. Do you agree or disagree? It so very simple there can be only two reasons for you to avoid answering it:
1) You are too stupid to be able to determine the distance.
2) You are too scared that the result will be a demonstration that the GP's meridian is not the LLM and too intellectually dishonest to deal with it.If you are so sure of the claims of your sources all you have to do is step through the measurements and show what is wrong. They are all there, nothing is hidden, anyone can check them. But this claim doesn't need a specific map. Any accurate map will do.The accuracy of Smyth's map isn't a topic of this thread. That can be discussed when it is the evidence for something.For the LLM what is important is the measurements made off the map. Your sources never made any LLM measurements did they? You'd love to show them but don't have any. The LLM is a claim of length it can be measured in miles, kilometers or pyramid inches. We asked for your sources results of the calculations of the length of the LLM but you never produced the number. It will be a number of a few 1,000 miles. Look it up in your sources.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 10-27-2004 08:06 PM