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Yep.God even uses EVIL for his purposes !quote:
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I've got *five* different ancient texts that have accounts of the Trojan War by five different authors. They all include Gods other than yours. So the Trojan War happened and Zeus and Athena and the Olympians were real. No resurrections, but that wasn't included in your original "rule" of archaeology now was it?
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ALL at *once? Was there *500 at one time WITH catacombs?
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You know Wise, you're absolutely right.
Galileo only published his book because the church told him to do otherwise. The church knew exactly how to manipulate him, they knew what made him tick. They knew "if we tell Galileo NOT to expose what we are telling people is THE TRUTH handed down by GOD and reveal that WE ARE KNOWINGLY LYING TO THE VERY PEOPLE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SAVING, then he's GOING TO WRITE something in SIXTEEN YEARS and EXPOSE OUR FRAUDULENCE. Thus we are able to ENCOURAGE AND NOURISH SCIENCE by RESTRICTING it as it is OUR DUTY. Yeah, sure we may HAVE BEEN LYING TO THE PEOPLE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SAVING, but that is GOD'S WILL. God's will is for his representatives on earth to LIE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SAVED"
Isn't it funny how smart they were?

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God KNEW

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God knew about this whole Galileo thing, so what's to stop him from knowing about the rise of evolution and the fall of creationism? or rather the rise of evolution to replace special creation, and then the later somewhat rise of creationism but never quite making it.It's gatta be part of his big plan (assuming God exists and he has a plan).

Were they in ONE GROUP at the SAME TIME?SHOW THE DOCUMENTS !Wise

As you made your assertions first, and have not supplied any evidence, and have used circular reasoning, you must do the same. First.Besides, there are 500 witnesses to the Trojan War, which has external evidence supporting it. The Greek soldiers. In fact, that's several thousand witnesses.------------------
Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!

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Yep.

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God even uses EVIL for his purposes !

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Note to all who previously believed otherwise:the ends really do justify the means!

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PROVE IT !

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Show *500 witnesses who saw the events take place AT ONCE (same time) !

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I believe the point is to, once again, call attention to the fact that you are claiming (page after page, post after post, ad nauseum) the same thing with no proof. The double standard could not possibly be any clearer. How many names have you provided? Signatures? Places of residence? Citizenship? Any details about any of these witnesses? Oh, none. If you recognized the rhetorical statement for what it was, you'd realize how very, very damning it is to your assertions. Alas, it seems you never will.

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Then show me the *4 accounts by *4 different authors of the events !

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Are they allowed to plagiarize the hell out of each other and still somehow disagree about various details? That would make it a lot easier for the authors. This is another problem you have repeatedly (and that is an [i][b]understatement[/i][/b] failed to address in this thread, and another double standard in your logic.

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Time to PONY UP !

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Oooooh, all capitals! Gotta hand it to you, the more you use them, the more impact they have on me. That is, the more you use them, the more they incite me to laugh at your posts. You have not even begun to pony up, and you have ignored everyone else who has. You're accomplishing nothing here.

Yep.Exists !?EEEgggad,,,MAN !..LOOK ! Wise

MY WITNESSES will beat YOURS ANYDAY !PROVIDE the documents !Time to pony up !Wise

my point is (if there are any points on this particular thread) god must have planned for this current state of affairs. i'm assuming you have problems with the theory of evolution, but it's current widespread support is (according to you) and act of god, and will eventually serve some kind of purpose for him.why are you getting in the way of that?

LOTS OF EVIDENCE IN STONE! READ IT!Wise

Ahheeemmm ! That's better!Certainly it will serve a purpose of some sort. If anything it shows Gods ultimate creation. The further Science digs in to it the GREATER God becomes !For instance, it is WELL known by geologists that "Fossil fuels" (oil) buried deep within the earth Is IN FACT remains of Dinos,animals, vegetation, compacted and pressure cooked.Explanation? NOAHS FLOOD !BBBWWWAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAA! Just thought of something.EVOLUTIONISTS think that they are in the fossil records !BBBBWWWAAAAAAHHHHHAAA!LOOK A LITTLE DEEPER ! Bunch of Dumkofffss !Wise--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From the forum rules, #5: "Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided."That, and the page wouldn't load. No dice. Shall I make some dramatic pronunciations formed of catch phrases in all capitals now? Maybe not... half the posts in this thread (read: your posts) are overloaded with them already.

This is standard procedure, as long topics (300+ messages) have a tendency to have technical glitches happen.I suggest that Wise try to bring up the quality level of his postings. Right now, this topic is giving powerful testimony towards the elimination of the "Free For All" forum. We have better uses for the server storage space, above and beyond the storage of drivel.Adminnemooseus------------------
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Certainly it will serve a purpose of some sort. If anything it shows Gods ultimate creation. The further Science digs in to it the GREATER God becomes !

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it's difficult for me to see that purpose since it seems one of the results of the advancement of scientific knowledge is an explanation of the universe that doesn't rely on God. How can this help the church? Or how would this increase the general belief in God? How would this effect a god anyway, except for reducing the number of people who believe in him?

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For instance, it is WELL known by geologists that "Fossil fuels" (oil) buried deep within the earth Is IN FACT remains of Dinos,animals, vegetation, compacted and pressure cooked.

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Explanation? NOAHS FLOOD !

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are you suggesting that God made the dinosaurs, then killed them with a flood, then buried them and had pressure and heat turn them into fossil fuels just so that we could later use them to power our cars? ignoring the probability that 10,000 years isn't enough time for fossil fuels to form, why would god provide us with such a detrimental power source to the environment? maybe in future years we'll discover a way to use the dissipated heat and CO2 as a power source. Why not just bury under the earth a model of a super efficient and compact solar cell that we could find and later reproduce?

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EVOLUTIONISTS think that they are in the fossil records !

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i don't understand this at all.

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This topic seems to me analogous to a group of people hovering around a cage with a rabid animal with sticks... all taking their turns at poking the animal to see what it does...

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so I’d like my turn now.

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