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Author Topic:   The Three Kinds of Creationists
foreveryoung
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Message 12 of 432 (647884)
01-11-2012 5:32 PM


There is no topic available that I can find where this question will not be off topic, so here goes. Is hydrogen sulfide really amphoteric and if it is, give examples of how it acts as a base and an acid.

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foreveryoung
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Message 390 of 432 (658809)
04-09-2012 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 380 by Theodoric
04-05-2012 9:43 PM


Re: Convincing Others
Evidently you have no idea what "valid" means. You "theories" defy all scientific evidence.

How in the hell can a theory defy evidence? Evidence is in the eye of the beholder. You have to make a convincing argument that your "evidence" can only support your favorite view to the exclusion of all other views. That takes reasoning. You people have fucked the word "evidence" all to bloody hell. You have rigged things so that "evidence" only means anything that supports the consensus view and anything that doesn't get peer review support is by definition "not evidence". You can all go to hell.


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Message 413 of 432 (658984)
04-11-2012 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by dwise1
04-11-2012 1:47 AM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
Over the years, I've formed an opinion about honest creationists, that they do not last long, because they either withdraw from discussion upon learning that their position has problems or they eventually give up on creationism and sometimes even join the other side. My first impulse was to state the same opinion of knowledgeable creationists -- and for the most part the same does apply -- but upon reflection I see there's more involved.

We can say that there are two kinds of knowledgeable creationists: honest ones and dishonest one. OK, we could talk about a third kind who is severely delusional, but I would tend to lump those with the dishonest ones. Also, by "creationist", I mean those of the "creation science" persuasion rather than anyone who believes in Divine Creation, such as extremely effective anti-creationist and self-described creationist (ie, believer in Divine Creation, being a practicing Roman Catholic) Dr. Ken Miller.

An honest knowledgeable creationist will not last long on forums such as this, because the problems with his position and arguments will very quickly become apparent to him and he will need to deal with them. Whichever path he ends up taking, he will most likely retreat from forum participation since he cannot in good conscience continue to argue for things that he knows are wrong. In rare cases, he might continue to participate in order to work things out in his own mind, but I would not expect that to continue for very long.

A dishonest knowledgeable creationist would also not be expected to participate on this forum. Examples are most leading creationists, such as Hovind, Gish, Morris, etc, plus many highly active local creationists. Although highly knowledgeable, they remain dedicated to perverting that knowledge in service to their god (arguably the Great Deceiver, but since I'm an atheist, I don't believe in that Christian god either). The reason why we will not see them here is that they know from long and bitter experience that their claims are false and that in a fair discussion they have no hope of success -- eg, they will push ardently for a creationist-style verbal circus debate while at the same time absolutely refuse to engage in an on-line written debate where their opponents have time to research their claims and the audience can see exactly what claims they're making and be able to check on those claims. Also, they know that they must avoid knowledgeable opponents like the plague; eg, a local activist will bully and mock an opponent mercilessly, until he suddenly discovers that that opponent is knowledgeable, whereupon he immediately starts playing super-nice and tries to disengage as quickly as possible.

So neither kind of knowledgeable creationist can be expected to last here long. OK, that "third" kind, the highly delusional knowledgeable creationist, may stick it out longer because he's just simply, due to his delusion, clueless of the situation. But how long can he keep that up?

So all that leaves us with are the creationists who are not knowledgeable, who don't know what they're talking about. Protected by their ignorance, they can endure.

What a load of crap but typical of the attitude here.


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foreveryoung
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Message 419 of 432 (659144)
04-12-2012 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by jar
04-11-2012 3:50 PM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
The whole thing and you're no Christian.

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Message 420 of 432 (659145)
04-12-2012 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 416 by Taq
04-11-2012 3:37 PM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
Pearls before swine.

Shove it up your ass.


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Message 421 of 432 (659146)
04-12-2012 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 415 by dwise1
04-11-2012 3:17 PM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
Another load of crap from someone who is high on himself without realizing he has his head stuck up his ass.

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Message 423 of 432 (659155)
04-13-2012 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 422 by dwise1
04-13-2012 12:12 AM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
I am taking a closer look. I see one huge fucking asshole... That would be you mutherfucker.

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Message 424 of 432 (659157)
04-13-2012 12:24 AM
Reply to: Message 422 by dwise1
04-13-2012 12:12 AM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
No I am not drinking. I hate each and everyone of you assholes and I am not sparing any words about it. Every fucking one of you is a worthless piece of garbage.

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foreveryoung
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Message 431 of 432 (660980)
05-01-2012 9:05 AM


stealing the sun from the sky
I am focused on what I am after
The key to the next open chapter
Cause I found a way to steal the sun from the sky
Long live that day that I decided to fly from the inside.

┬ęBrent Smith


  
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Message 432 of 432 (667636)
07-10-2012 3:43 PM


reply to jar on my thread that is in summation mode
jar writes:

If the mass of the Earth is reduced by the amount you suggest, what happens to the distance between the Earth and the Moon?

Nothing, if the force exerted by that mass remains the same.

jar writes:

If the mass of the sun is reduced by the amount you suggest, what happens to the distance between the Sun and the Earth?

If G changes as mass changes, the force remains the same. The same weaker conditions of the zero point energy field that gave a lesser mass also give greater gravitational pull.

Nothing, if the force exerted by that mass remains the same.

F=G * (m1m2)/r*2

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Edited by AdminModulous, : I hid the text, it is still visible through the use of the 'peek' button.


  
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