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Author Topic:   The Three Kinds of Creationists
Adminnemooseus
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Message 391 of 432 (658810)
04-09-2012 9:07 PM


Reminder - This is a Free For All topic
This is a Free For All topic, filed under "Garbage Pile". You are posting messages in the "the admins pretty much don't give a damn" zone.

Carry on.

Adminnemooseus


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Message 392 of 432 (658811)
04-09-2012 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 388 by Granny Magda
04-09-2012 4:15 AM


Re: A possible point for prayer
Admittedly, faith is the epitome of circular logic. I have no defense for that.

As for the other point that God is fallible because of the OT accounts, assuming that is your point, yes that is debatable. I don't understand why God decides whatever he decides. Sorry.


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jar
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Message 393 of 432 (658814)
04-09-2012 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by foreveryoung
04-09-2012 8:48 PM


Re: Convincing Others
"Evidence is in the eye of the beholder" is another falsehood repeated by "Creationists".

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Dr Adequate
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Message 394 of 432 (658815)
04-09-2012 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by foreveryoung
04-09-2012 8:48 PM


Re: Convincing Others
How in the hell can a theory defy evidence?

By being wrong. For example:

"Theory": All pigs have wings.
Evidence: Lots of wingless pigs.

Evidence is in the eye of the beholder.

Perhaps when you wrote that you thought it meant something.

You have to make a convincing argument that your "evidence" can only support your favorite view to the exclusion of all other views.

No, not really. No-one, for example, is required to exclude Last Thursdayism when accounting for the existence of last Wednesday's newspaper.

You people have fucked the word "evidence" all to bloody hell. You have rigged things so that "evidence" only means anything that supports the consensus view and anything that doesn't get peer review support is by definition "not evidence".

Actually, that's not the reason why those of your beliefs which are wrong have no supporting evidence. It's 'cos of them being wrong.

You can all go to hell.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Message 395 of 432 (658816)
04-09-2012 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by foreveryoung
04-09-2012 8:48 PM


Waaahambulance time
How Christian of you.

There are certain things you should learn.
1) Definition of evidence.
2) Understanding what it means when I put the word theories in quote marks.
3) How the peer review process works and what and means and just as importantly what it doesn't mean.
4) Telling an atheist to go to hell is not an insult. Just shows you have no argument and you should take you ball, go home and cry.

Since you are sticking up for Buzzy how about you show how his theories are valid, how they do not defy scientific evidence. Go on try. I need a good laugh.

If this is as good as you have in a battle of wits I think you might be unarmed.

Evidence is in the eye of the beholder.

Bullshit. All that is is a creo cop out for distorting evidence.

Edited by AdminPhat, : fixed spelling

Edited by Theodoric, : Fixed Phats meddling


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 396 of 432 (658838)
04-10-2012 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 390 by foreveryoung
04-09-2012 8:48 PM


Re: Convincing Others
foreveryoung writes:

How in the hell can a theory defy evidence? Evidence is in the eye of the beholder.

Nonsense.

If a guy called Kosie Petoorsie, who doesn't even exist, is accused (and then found guilty) of the murder of Pres. Barak Obama on the 1st of April 2012, it is crap. It's not in the eye of the beholder. It's just crap.

Kosie Petoorsie doesn't exist and Pres. Obama wasn't killed on the first of April, 2012. To accuse a non-existing person of a murder that didn't happen certainly is not "in the eye of the beholder". It's just crap.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Message 397 of 432 (658894)
04-10-2012 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 391 by Adminnemooseus
04-09-2012 9:07 PM


Re: Reminder - This is a Free For All topic
Adminnemooseus writes:

This is a Free For All topic, filed under "Garbage Pile". You are posting messages in the "the admins pretty much don't give a damn" zone.

LoL, unless your Kickbutt Buzsaw, kicking member Percy et al's ideological butts.


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Message 398 of 432 (658902)
04-10-2012 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 397 by Buzsaw
04-10-2012 5:15 PM


Butt kicking
Buz, the only butt you've managed to kick is your own. By continually blowing your own trumpet you look like a fool. Everyone here knows that what you are saying just isn't true - you're fooling no-one but yourself.

I think you've just managed t demonstrate that you are one of a kind and don't fit into any of the categories already mentioned. You have a category all to yourself - the "Heart in the right place, but crazy as a loon" category.


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Message 399 of 432 (658903)
04-10-2012 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 398 by Trixie
04-10-2012 7:31 PM


Re: Butt kicking
No no no, you see: what you have failed to realize is that Buz is a cunning linguist and master debater.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 400 of 432 (658906)
04-10-2012 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 397 by Buzsaw
04-10-2012 5:15 PM


Re: Reminder - This is a Free For All topic
Kickbutt Buzsaw writes:

LoL, unless your Kickbutt Buzsaw

And the reason you're Kickbutt Buzsaw is the sign on your ass that says "Kick Me". You're really proud of that sign are'nt you?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 401 of 432 (658908)
04-10-2012 8:54 PM


The Knowledgeable Creationist
We're ignoring one category of creationist. Some creationists *are* very knowledgeable. Some that come to mind are TrueCreation, Tranquility Base and Peter Berger, but old timers know they haven't been here in quite some time.

In terms of science knowledge there is no one like them here today. Creationists familiar with science are not common, but they do exist, and it seems strange that we almost never see that breed anymore.

--Percy


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Message 402 of 432 (658909)
04-10-2012 9:03 PM


Re: Strawman Posts
The last three post comments were nothing but strawman personal attacks.

My comment pertained to Adminnemooseus's right on statement implying that I should have not been moderated by Percy, essentially mandating in this garbage pail Freeforall forum that Buzsaw cease and desist making his claims relative to ideology, etc.

All member Percy posted was personal attacks, all the while ignoring my valid points as to why I posted what I did, He attempted to silence me, applying his member account, violating his own forum guidlines. Obviously that strategy was in lieu of refuting, which no one has yet done, including you three thread off topic trolls.

ABE: The last tree comments pertained to messages 398, 399 and 400.

Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Message 403 of 432 (658910)
04-10-2012 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 402 by Buzsaw
04-10-2012 9:03 PM


Re: Strawman Posts

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 404 of 432 (658911)
04-10-2012 9:24 PM


I made this special for my special buddy Buz


"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 405 of 432 (658912)
04-10-2012 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 401 by Percy
04-10-2012 8:54 PM


Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
Except TrueCreation is no longer a Creationist and has not been since before Dr. Dino started getting free room and board.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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