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Phat
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Message 77 of 210 (168929)
12-16-2004 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Maestro232
12-16-2004 1:23 PM


Faith is an absolute to a Believer.
Maestro232 writes:
My guess is that any argument which let's science alone and uses other means as the thrust for reasoning feels non-threatening to the scientific minded on this board. It is thus "reasonable" because it is not really "arguable."
Welcome to EvC, Maestro! It is true that science uses tangible forms of evidence and measureable verification for their conclusions. Occasionally, science speculates(What the Big Bang "looks like", for example.) I am a believer in a literal, personal, and supernatural God
in the Christian monotheistic definition, but I am NOT a strict Creationist based on literal scriptural interpretation.
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Phat
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Message 103 of 210 (169078)
12-16-2004 5:14 PM
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12-16-2004 2:44 PM


Re: Faith is an absolute to a Believer.
Phatboy writes:
Occasionally, science speculates(What the Big Bang "looks like", for example.)
Lam writes:
Where did you get this idea? From popular science shows?
No. What DOES The Big Bang look like, Lam? I thought we could just see the edges...

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Phat
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Message 143 of 210 (169575)
12-17-2004 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Maestro232
12-17-2004 3:04 PM


Re: Stubborn?
Maestro writes:
But, just the same, if you are really, truly interested in why I think the whole of scientific data in general suggests a creator, I am willing to post an abbreviated statement here.
But if no man comes to God unless the Spirit draws them, no amount of logic will ever convince a scientist to refute their belief in logic. Theologians should stay away from science. It is like parents going to a rap concert and acting cool. To convince anyone in this forum that there is a Creator, you must attempt to get to know them, get along with them, and trust that the Spirit will draw them towards Him. No amount of logic will ever supercede the established science of our current time.(Unless it is better science, not theological stew.)

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