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Meldinoor
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Message 159 of 210 (547072)
02-16-2010 2:55 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Flyer75
02-15-2010 9:49 PM


Welcome to EvC Forum, Flyer75.
I am pleased to say that you've picked the right forum to learn about the evolution vs creation debate. I myself started out as you are now, a young earth creationist based on the Bible, and what I had been taught as a kid. Then I started looking into the evidence and the arguments of both sides. This led me to being an Old Earth Creationist, then a Theistic Evolutionist, and finally, an evolutionist who also happens to be a Christian. I still think about the subject often, and enjoy discussing and learning the arguments of both sides. In a way, I feel liberated by the fact that I have objectively considered all sides of the argument. It doesn't necessarily make me right, but being free to follow the evidence wherever it leads is more likely to get me there.
Don't be put off by the bluntness of some of our members. It takes all kinds, you know. Usually, if you're a civil debater, people here will treat you with respect. Remember, it's not about winning a debate or promoting one's belief, it's about learning.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
Member (Idle past 4830 days)
Posts: 400
From: Colorado, USA
Joined: 02-16-2009


Message 184 of 210 (549713)
03-10-2010 1:55 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by IchiBan
03-09-2010 10:12 PM


Re: The old "evolution is a religion" nonsense again
nwr writes:
IchiBan writes:
Actually what I find odd is that so many evolutionists are on a zealous crusade against any notion of a creator (except the ones made in their own image) .
Obvious nonsense.
There are many theistic evolutionists, who do believe in a creator. And there is no mass crusade against them.
Case in point. I believe in a Creator, and I am an evolutionist. And I haven't been hounded for it yet. And I'm certainly not on a zealous crusade against any religious belief.
I guess that kind of disproves your "point", doesn't it?
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
Member (Idle past 4830 days)
Posts: 400
From: Colorado, USA
Joined: 02-16-2009


Message 188 of 210 (549719)
03-10-2010 2:27 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by IchiBan
03-10-2010 2:07 AM


Re: The old "evolution is a religion" nonsense again
IchiBan writes:
No I would not agree that your your one vote invalidates that statement I made about so many evolutionists
Then how many votes would it take to satisfy you? There are several more who take my position on this forum. If we are to believe the Gallup polls, some 36% of the American population believe God guided evolution to produce the diversity of life on earth. There are potentially many more who believe in evolution by purely natural processes (my position, until further evidence presents itself) but where God may have acted as a prime mover to get creation going. Finally, there are many scientists who hold a similar position.
Science and Nature
How many exceptions does it take before a rule becomes a smelly puff of hot air?
IchiBan writes:
Ultimately evolutionism is a religion that masquerades as a science discipline
Nah. I have no faith in evolution beyond expecting to see natural processes in the past extrapolate into the present and future. Evolution is falsifiable, something that most religions are not. If evidence no longer supported descent with modification, I would "recant"
BTW, are we talking about "evolutionism" or evolution here? If you mean "evolutionism", you may have a point. If you're referring to the theory of evolution you're sadly mistaken. Which is it?
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor
ABE:
By the way, if evolution was a religion, wouldn't I know? After all, I'm an "evolutionist". And I have no theological axe to grind, so why would I lie?
Edited by Meldinoor, : No reason given.
Edited by Meldinoor, : No reason given.

General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett - "If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through"

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