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Gzus
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Message 1 of 30 (37285)
04-18-2003 2:40 PM


Does anyone know of any good sites/organisations that have as their main focus, immortality? By this I mean physical immortality and the postponement of life through science. (not religious institutions)

I personally am unable to come to terms with the concept of non-existence after death, it is to me, a fate worse than Hell.

Also are there any thoughts on this?

Gzus

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Gzus
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Message 3 of 30 (37289)
04-18-2003 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
04-18-2003 2:53 PM


Terrifying, yes, in fact I find it so soul destroying that i would much rather spend an eternity in the fiery recesses of Hell than have my existence stolen from me. To cease to exist all together is to have everything that you have ever thought or felt made meaningless.

People might say, 'but others will remember you'. But what use is that if I am unable to experience that comfort? We live quite pathetic and inevitably doomed lives, spent in anticipation of our eventual demise. Some may say there is an afterlife, I would prefer not to subscribe to such fanciful notions.


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Gzus
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Message 5 of 30 (37291)
04-18-2003 3:23 PM
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04-18-2003 3:15 PM


No one ever complained about being dead right? Terrifying to the living shall we say.

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Gzus
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Message 9 of 30 (37336)
04-19-2003 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by nator
04-19-2003 10:16 AM


quote:
Originally posted by schrafinator:
Wow, you do have problems, don't you?

Admittedly yes. It's just that i find the concept of non-existence so incomprehensible that it scares the hell out of me. I just can't imagine not existing [quite an absurd exercise, i know]. I keep on telling myself, it doesn't really matter, but there's this little voice in the back of my head saying 'NOOOooooo! I want to LIVE! I don't want to die!' It really is that simple, I want to live forever. I think we all feel this to some extent.

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Maybe it would help if you made sure to have as positive an impact as you can while you are here on earth.

The problem with this, I find, is that 'earth' and the reality that I perceive only has meaning if 'I' am around to perceive it, since my view of the universe is unique and special just as any other's. If i am no longer, then I will not experience the comfort of knowing that I have made a positive impact on the world that I have perceived.

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Gzus
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Message 12 of 30 (37404)
04-20-2003 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by compmage
04-19-2003 5:51 PM


quote:
Personally I don't really want to die, although I don't think I would want to live forever either

Do you ever think there will be a time when you will say 'ok, i've had enough now, I no longer want to exist'?

My fear of death is incomparable to any other emotion that I have felt. But I am unable to pin down exactly what the cause of that fear is. Perhaps it is subconscious, i don't know. I want to live, but why? Why is existence so important to me? My mind boggles when trying to answer this question. Perhaps it is because the only reason that i do things is so that i will be able to experience their consequences. whatever the cause, the fear manifests itself as an inner scream, a childlike plea and a desperate urge. Perhaps if i can find the cause, then i can overcome the urge.


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Gzus
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Message 15 of 30 (37807)
04-24-2003 7:26 AM


Well, in conclusion, perhaps yes, after x million years i might very well say , 'ok time to die now', but i don't have the luxury of that decision. At the end of the day, i want to be able to choose when i die, knowing at every moment that i can either continue living or stop. Part of my fear, i think, is the unpredictability and inevitability of death's coming.

  
Gzus
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Message 17 of 30 (38807)
05-02-2003 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Peter
04-30-2003 8:35 AM


But I can't help it!!!

P.S. Where is Birmongham?

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