Why God uses faith

interesting... Any basis for this belief at all?

Sure, the "angel" he talked to contradicted the Bible, in which the true angel Gabriel has a part.

So you rule out a misinterpretation/miscommunication or even pure invention of the event in favour of invoking demons?

She is also ruling out the possiblity that it WAS Gabriel, and christianity is morally replaced

I guess I could insult Mohammed by saying his claim he talked to an angel was just a fabrication or a hallucination but I prefer to believe people when they report such events. Unless I have good reason not to. Gabriel would have had to lie for that to be a possibility, totally contradict the Old and New Testaments. An angel who lies is already a demon.

Mohammed says exactly the same thing about his Gabriel. Why do you believe he saw what he said he saw, but you don't believe his interpretation? And how do you know that your Gabriel isn't the demon?

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is this 'fact' taught in the bible?

she doesn't. she just assumes she's right.

Methinks you discount the experience of your youth overmuch. You have already recounted the fact that you were much involved with Sunday School and church when you were a pre-teen. "Indoctrinate the young" (paraphrase of Deut 4:9, Deut 11:19, Prov 22:6).Faith it can be its own evidence (Heb 11:1). It is also a necessary item in order to please God (Heb 11:6). However, does this mean that it requires no evidence at all in order to be faith?Does God expect us to believe in Him and His Son without evidence? I would say 'no' since some evidence resides in the testamony of the Bible and those who follow Him. Slight evidence, countered by the writings of other religions and the actions of their followers, but still evidence.You say the the other religions' reported "supernatural" experiences are caused by demons. Basically, their followers were deceived.How do you know that you weren't the one deceived?This is where many people are. They don't see any more evidence for Christianity than that provided for Islam, Hinduism or Buddism.Back to the OP: Assuming that Christianity is the right path, why doesn't God provide a clear and overwhelming body of evidence that this is so? Why does He require us to choose with little differentiation between the religions as to what is true? Would His revealing Himself to us affect free will? I don't see how it could.

i think if youd burn all the web pages on here and all that was left was the soul... id want somebody on my team like faith. somebody you can trust .... to show honesty.. to have a guidence that leads to a true happiness.. and yes happiness is a subjective and blindly deceiving artform.. but there are laws to genuine happiness, whether you can see them or not. the ones that search for in 'out there' will not find it, and if they got it all they are searching for more..where did the common sense go?the answers are inside, not out. the fake stuff doesnt cut it for me. faith is real, you either nurture it and allow it to grow or you asphyxiate it... if understood, knowing right from wrong in faith is as easy to read as a smile aross cultures..the 20th century revolves around making your own rules for your own plastic happinessThis message has been edited by veiledvirtue, 03-02-2006 10:08 PM

God. I love talking to myself

If you want to talk to somebody else, say something that somebody can respond to.

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Islam claims to respect the Bible as God's word, but contradicts it and rewrites it which is disrespect. Gabriel can't say one thing in the Bible and something else to Mohammed and be trustworthy. An angel of God is holy and always truthful. This one wasn't. The claim that Islam is a new revelation of the same God is nonsense. God doesn't contradict himself.

Which is why the obvious conclusion is that the bible is false and the Holy Quran is the truth.

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Islam may contradict your interpretation of the Bible, but Muslims will say it doesn't contradict theirs. But we still don't know which version is trustworthy - yours or Mohammed's.You haven't said anything new. How can we tell who's listening to the demon?

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