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Author Topic:   Free Will and Biblical Prophecy: Are They Mutually Exclusive?
Modulous
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Message 87 of 227 (495169)
01-21-2009 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by ICANT
01-20-2009 8:16 PM


Re: Free Will
Sure they could have but they didn't.
Pilate let the death penalty be carried out to keep from making the Pharisees mad.
The Pharisees had been planning this moment for 3 years.
What do you think it would have taken to change their minds.
God hardened the heart of Pharaoh. Might he have softened their hearts?

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Modulous
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Message 89 of 227 (495191)
01-21-2009 1:44 PM
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01-21-2009 1:26 PM


Re: Free Will
For 3 and 1/2 years Jesus tried to soften their hearts. They saw the lame made able to walk, the blind to see, the deaf to hear, and the dead to live again.
What more could He do to soften their hearts?
Are you suggesting that God was incapable of softening their hearts?

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Modulous
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Message 93 of 227 (495212)
01-21-2009 3:19 PM
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01-21-2009 3:05 PM


Re: Free Will
No I am not suggesting that God was incapable of softening their minds (hearts).
I am saying that since man has free will He would not soften their mind to accept Him.
If He did there would be no free will.
I'm confused. You said that Jesus tried to soften their hearts but failed to do so. Are you making one of those convenient distinctions between Jesus and God? Then I guess that ends this line of discussion.

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Modulous
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Message 99 of 227 (495369)
01-22-2009 6:29 AM
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01-21-2009 9:15 PM


Re: Free Will
So God tried to do something. Was able to do something. But that something didn't happen?
Can you see why I might be confused?

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