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Author Topic:   Free Will and Biblical Prophecy: Are They Mutually Exclusive?
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Message 106 of 227 (495404)
01-22-2009 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by ICANT
01-21-2009 3:05 PM

Re: Free Will
ICANT writes:
I am saying that since man has free will He would not soften their mind to accept Him.
If He did there would be no free will.
God Bless
How do we know man has free will? This is cirucular reasoning - the Bible is true because the Bible says so. What if god lied in the Bible? Don't we already have enough clues that, if the assumption that the biblical God created the universe is true, he already has lied multiple times. Why should we trust a God that said no man or woman would live longer than 120 years, and then this same god would allow certain individuals to break his will?

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Message 214 of 227 (496911)
01-31-2009 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by Straggler
01-31-2009 11:43 AM

Re: Forget about gods and prophecies...
cavediver writes:
But even so, theoretically we can have arbitrarily accurate foreknowledge of anything you care to consider by careful use of time-travellers. We do not need any concept of omniscient beings or prophecies.
Straggler writes:
According to these theories if we gain knowledge of the future does that future incorporate the fact that we had that foreknowledge?
It looks so, but if these theories are true, you should occassionally be running across flocks of time-travellers from the future holding 7900Mp cameras. They should have the answer to your question.
Edited by Agobot, : No reason given.

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