God says this, and God says that

Just a quick one John surely the "box" in this case is the uncertainty principle....I mean thats about the only place it is theoretically impossible to be detected, prime real estate for shy and demure semitic tribal deities I would assume.....

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As I said, the claim is unfalsifiable. Also, as I've said, you'll say just about anything to justify your position, won't you? Including unfounded accusations of intellectual dishonesty?

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By the way, I didn't know we had secrets.

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Um if memory serves Gene John Smith dug up some mysterious inscribed gold tablets, here in Vermont I believe, which he then translated behind a curtain while his wife wrote it down....Did anyone else see these slabs? Are they around for us to look at? Is there anyway of verifying that they ever exsisted?Not exactly the most auspicious start if you want to avoid claims of intellectual dishonesty....(I`m now going to step out of this discussion because I personally don`t havwe any beef with the LDS church and I don`t really care if you are LDS, atheist, Xtian or anything else providing you don`t attempt to harm others and leave me free to form my own opinions.)

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John Smith

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Joseph Smith.

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here in Vermont

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No, though he was born in Vermont he moved to Palmyra NY at a young age. There was the source of the plates.

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which he then translated behind a curtain while his wife wrote it down....

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I'm not sure about the curtain part. Also, Oliver Cowdery served as scribe as well.

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Did anyone else see these slabs?

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Yes. Eleven people actually...

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Heck thats not too bad for a distant 10 year old memory from history class back in the day....