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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 300 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Where in scripture do you read that babies were given mercy and headed for Heaven. God said the whole world was evil.
RegardsDL
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
A better way for God to show his love for you would be to treat you like the child of his you are not? Yes, that is my answer to the question. Were my posts unclear? -
Sounds like a immovable object / irresistable force moment. I'm not sure what this means. A question was asked, and I answered the question. Whether or not God takes my opinions into account in his decisions is another matter entirely. If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a monkey. Haven't you always wanted a monkey? -- The Barenaked Ladies
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TheTruth Member (Idle past 5890 days) Posts: 60 Joined: |
Matthew 18:2-4
"2He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19:13-15" 13Then little children were brought to Jesus for him to place his hands on them and pray for them. But the disciples rebuked those who brought them. 14Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." 15When he had placed his hands on them, he went on from there." "People call me strange does that make me a stranger My best friend was born in a manger"
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 300 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
This is after the flood.
You cannot justify genocide or God killing. RegardsDL
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Brian Member (Idle past 4985 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
This sounds like not so innocent people to me, in fact it sounds as if they are...well...evil. You want to explain how a 2 day old baby can be, in your words, "EVIL"?
Secondly, I'm not sure where you come up with the idea that God regretted wiping out everyone in the Flood. But if you are referring to Genesis 8:21 "When the Lord smelled the sweet odor, he said to himself: 'Never again will I doom the earth because of man, since the desires of man's heart are evil from the start; nor will I ever again strike down all living beings, as I have done.'", that isn't saying that he regretted doing it at all. It merely was making a statement or 'covenant' that he will not destroy all life because of the wickedness of man. I wasn't referring to Gen 8, it was to gen 6:6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. and Jehovah repenteth that He hath made man in the earth, and He grieveth Himself -- unto His heart. He regretted making humans because He now had to kill them all, even the tiny inncent babies that you think are evil. Think about how dense this god actually is! A god who knows everything would know that His creation was so flawed that one day He would have to wipe them out so would avoid making flawed creations, the entity Yahweh is portrayed as a moron by the Bible authors, they didn't think very many of these kyths through at all.
That's what he did by sending his Son as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. Which is another flawed, infantile tale. God decides what the price should be for salvation, and what does He do. He requires that He Himself becomes human so that He can be sacrificed to Him to pay a debt that He is owed! Come on, how embarrassing is this? Why does God not just do the right thing and hold His hands up and say 'Sorry, I messed up guys, you can all have eternal peace with me in Heaven to make up for my bad parenting skills.' A good parent does not punish a child for the parent's mistake. Tell me, do you sit your children down next to sharp knives and let them play, do you put a fireguard around the fire, do you allow your children to play with matches, do you allow them to play with bottles of bleach. Of course you don't. No good parent would do anything to put their children in danger. If you read about a parent leaving their child alone in their room with a loaded gun you would be disgusted, so why should yahweh be treated any differently? Take off the blinkers, you can see that the Bible contains some excellent ancient folk tales. Brian.
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TheTruth Member (Idle past 5890 days) Posts: 60 Joined: |
Exodus 34:7
"7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation." Numbers 14:18 "18 The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation." New International Version (NIV) Exodus 20:5 Listen to this passage 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, New International Version (NIV)Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society Exodus 34:7 Listen to this passage 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation." Leviticus 20:5"5 I will set my face against that man and his family and will cut off from their people both him and all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molech." Leviticus 26:39-42"39 Those of you who are left will waste away in the lands of their enemies because of their sins; also because of their fathers' sins they will waste away. 40 But if they will confess their sins and the sins of their fathers”their treachery against me and their hostility toward me, 41 which made me hostile toward them so that I sent them into the land of their enemies”then when their uncircumcised hearts are humbled and they pay for their sin, 42 I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land. "People call me strange does that make me a stranger My best friend was born in a manger"
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 300 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
If the point is that God should punish your children for what you do, then it is a wrong headed policy.
If you die in dept, should your creditors go get the maney that your children have? No. Should you have paid for any debts that your father left?If you say yes then you are a fool. RegardsDL
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Should you have paid for any debts that your father left? Well, people used to have to do such a thing. Things like debt passing onto the next generations, things like group punishment (killing or enslaving an entire family or tribe for the infractions of one), things that we now consider wrong used to be considered a normal part of justice way back in the day. It doesn't mean that our ancestors were wrong and we are right, just that they used a different standard of morality than we do today. If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a monkey. Haven't you always wanted a monkey? -- The Barenaked Ladies
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TheTruth Member (Idle past 5890 days) Posts: 60 Joined: |
Greatest I Am said,
"If the point is that God should punish your children for what you do, then it is a wrong headed policy. If you die in dept, should your creditors go get the maney that your children have? No." You must also consider that it was during a different time where things were handled differently if someone were hung on a cross today for any crime the country would be persecuted. In the old testiment they used the patriach system aka the family. The family was ruled by the father what ever he sowed he reaped and if he died the children would then reap it. The it could be anything good or bad; harvest, land, wealth, livestock, slaves, ect. and even punishment. "People call me strange does that make me a stranger My best friend was born in a manger"
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iano Member (Idle past 1966 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
In case your interested TheTruth, clicking on the PEEK button on the lower righthand corner of this post will reveal the coding that permits
this that writes: these quote:
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Seems to me that things should at the minimum have some obvious connection to Jesus.
Adminnemooseus Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added "s" to the end of "Adminnemooseu"
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 300 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Nice dance.
Are you bying into the old ways or were they wrong. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 300 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
You, like Chiroptera are dancing with the ancients.
Are you saying it is right to place your burden on your children. We can always go back to slavery if you like the old laws. RegardsDL
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TheTruth Member (Idle past 5890 days) Posts: 60 Joined: |
I didn't say slavery the bible discredits slavery aka all men are eqaual but yes it is a old law we think is unjust now but the gallows is also "unjust" but back a couple hundred years it was fine
"People call me strange does that make me a stranger My best friend was born in a manger"
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TheTruth Member (Idle past 5890 days) Posts: 60 Joined: |
Why thank you that is very useful.
"People call me strange does that make me a stranger My best friend was born in a manger"
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