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Asgara

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Message 122 of 300 (273935)
12-29-2005 6:03 PM

Reply to: Message 120 by randman
12-29-2005 5:58 PM

Original Sin or the original sin

Committing "the" original sin does not equal the concept of "original sin."

Judaism's Rejection of Original Sin

The doctrine of original sin is totally unacceptable to Jews (as it is to Christian sects such as Baptists and Assemblies of G-d). Jews believe that man enters the world free of sin, with a soul that is pure and innocent and untainted. While there were some Jewish teachers in Talmudic times who believed that death was a punishment brought upon mankind on account of Adam's sin, the dominant view by far was that man sins because he is not a perfect being, and not, as Christianity teaches, because he is inherently sinful.

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Message 125 of 300 (273938)
12-29-2005 6:12 PM

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12-29-2005 6:07 PM

Re: Original Sin or the original sin

So a Jewish source may be wrong about Christianity? So could a Christian source be wrong about Judaism.

I will trust a Jewish site over a Christian one as to Jewish beliefs and vice versa. You have provided no Jewish sources to corraborate you stance that

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those that accept the Genesis account of Adam and Eve all believe Adam and Eve committed this Original Sin and it led to the earth and mankind being in a more fallen state.

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Asgara

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Message 127 of 300 (273943)
12-29-2005 6:19 PM

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12-29-2005 6:15 PM

Re: Original Sin or the original sin

Being born with an inclination to both good and bad is STILL not a belief in original sin. His source did not say that this inclination was due to Adam's or Eve's behavior.

IMO (my opinion) is that it means that Adam and Eve were created with this inclination also.

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