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iano Member (Idle past 1968 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
schraf writes: Me too (has the finesse of a bloke)....which is why I get along so well with the blokes. Nah...I think it's because your very pretty. Now that your photo is on open forum you'll never know one way or the other. Guys are suckers for pretty girls. Edited by iano, : add 'very' so as to prevent accusations of semantics and weaving and ducking and diving and...
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
In the dream I committed adultery Don't you have to be married to commit adultery? You're not married, are you? So you dreamed you had a wife and cheated on her? What was the wife like?
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iano Member (Idle past 1968 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
a-dul'-ter-i: In Scripture designates sexual intercourse of a man, whether married or unmarried, with a married woman. Besides, I am myself betrothed to another. Namely Christ.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Oh, SHE was married. Did this dream-woman correspond to someone real?
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iano Member (Idle past 1968 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Oh, SHE was married. Did this dream-woman correspond to someone real? Nope. Although the precise setting isn't clear (some kind of dinner party I vaguely recall) I was aware she was married.
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3485 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
According to the Bible Encyclopeaedia and Scriptural Dictionary of 1902, in Biblical times, adultery was the act whereby any married man was exposed to the risk of having a spurious offspring imposed upon him. An adulterer was, therefore, any man who had illicit intercourse with a married or betrothed woman; and and adulteress was a betrothed or married woman who had intercouse with any other man than her husband.
Personally, I would say no you have not committed a sin, but the fact that you feel that if the circumstances were real that you would follow though brings to your attention that you have a weakness you need to address. In your venacular, this is God showing you your weakness. That's how we refine ourselves. As our weaknesses are brought into the light, recognize them and adjust accordingly. "Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz
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iano Member (Idle past 1968 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Yeah, either way there is something to think about. But since there is no sure way to know one way or the other (is a 'conscious' decision made in a dream a 'conscious' decision?) I gave sin the benefit of the doubt and repented of 'it'.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Nope. Although the precise setting isn't clear (some kind of dinner party I vaguely recall) I was aware she was married. If the woman is imaginary, it wouldn't count in my book. You weren't lusting in your heart for a real person.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I really don't understand how you draw your conclusions about the dream I had Iano. It seems like you are trying to tell me that the dream I had and the imagery used was divinely inspired.
I really fail to see that this is the case. If your god was trying to send me some kind of message that I would take note of he could send me an e-mail. Damn straight I would sit up and take notice then. I think above all your take on my dream was just that: your take. You just happen to weave your religious views into it. This is the problem I have with any interpretaion of dreams. We have no manual to say "this concept means this". When ever any one says "your teeth falling out means you are worried about money" I roll my eyes and wonder how it is known that this is the case? Just had a thought about the lion bit in my dream. When I first got togther with my partner she was pretty proactive about it and we have a joke that she 'pounced' on me.
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iano Member (Idle past 1968 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
I really don't understand how you draw your conclusions about the dream I had Iano. It seems like you are trying to tell me that the dream I had and the imagery used was divinely inspired. You asked me to apply Christian theology to your dream and I did - both of them. I am not trying to prove that this was an oblique message from God. The case that it is is the one presented to you. You must decide for yourself. Reject or accept - the choice is yours. It always will be.
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iano Member (Idle past 1968 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
If the woman is imaginary, it wouldn't count in my book. You weren't lusting in your heart for a real person. I don't know if she was imaginary. I just didn't know her. She could be a real person for all I know. Someone my subconcious has remembered but I don't
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I don't know if she was imaginary. I just didn't know her. Yes, well, I know I have never had any romantic dreams about imaginary women. Any dreams I've had of that sort have always been about real women, people I knew. I don't have such dreams anymore. Now I have nightmares about falling from high places.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
robinrohan writes: You weren't lusting in your heart for a real person. Where "lusting in your heart" is concerned, I don't think the object of the lust is relevant. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Where "lusting in your heart" is concerned, I don't think the object of the lust is relevant. I would think it would be ok to lust in your heart for your wife. Is it a sin for a single man to lust in his heart for a single woman?
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
iano writes: I am not trying to prove that this was an oblique message from God. The case that it is is the one presented to you. You must decide for yourself. Reject or accept - the choice is yours. So, if I "interpret" Larni's dream as a message from Hansel and Gretel, he can just choose my interpretation or yours? That sounds mighty like dream interpretation is crap - which somebody (hmm...) has been saying all along. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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