Re: Phat & Jar: how we explain their "Christianity"
The way I see it Phat? My girl has a '96 Ford Fiesta parked outside her house which is having its brake discs replaced tomorrow. Without error is it? No! Does it fulfill all its essential functions (and more) despite this? Yes.
How in Godâ€™s name can it be false when we have Christians on this very thread giving different definitions of what a Christian is!
I have defined Christian the way the Bible defines it.
You have defined it the way you THINK the Bible defines it, but how many other Christians on this very thread would agree with you?
First, we remove the word "Christian" and replace it with "persons who are in God's will," which is synonymous. The Bible is crystal clear in this respect: persons in God's will are those that are persecuted and rejected by the secular AND religious establisment. This is a full-proof criteria: every person in God's will IN the Bible is persecuted by secular and religious establishments;
So, Jonah was a Christian? Amos was a Christian? Isaiah was a Christian?
Tell me when did secular and religious groups ever persecute Joshua? Your definition is extremely weird Ray, perhaps you arenâ€™t really a Christian at all?
therefore, if you are a Christian, and you are accepted by these entities and loved and not persecuted and rejected then your Christianity is counterfeit.
Ah, the good old persecution complex. Which is completely unfound BTW.
Both Jar and Phat, by these criteria, are not real Christians.
By YOUR invented criteria Ray, but they consider themselves Christian so you are essentially supporting my point that crazy Christians cannot agree on what a Christian actually is.
Both are accepted by the Atheist-evolutionist status quo here at EvC.
But I accept you Ray! Oh crap now you are not a Christian!
While Buzsaw is a Moderator, he is the object of angry invective by all Mods and Admins and Directors.
And by you as well Ray, as he has rolled over and does Percyâ€™s dirty work for him.
Faith is banned.
Of course I am the devil incarnate.
Atheists donâ€™t believe in the devil Ray, although we are concerned about your psychological condition. ;)
Truth derived from the Bible says persons who have concern about going to hell are probably not, and those who have no concern whatsover probably are.
Yay! Iâ€™m saved since I know that Hell is a fairytale, how cool is that?
Brian: the hand of Christ via the gospel (= way of faith apart from the works of the code of conduct known as the law) is available to you.
Sorry, but I set my standards a lot higher than that of a first century conman. Jesus is way below the acceptable moral standards of an atheist. Anyone who would deliberately set up the slaughter of babies isnâ€™t really worth worshipping.
Seize Christ by faith and wait on Him in that state, is my advice.
So Jesus deliberately set this up, or can we blame Dad for that one?
Well Christians tell me that Jesus and His daddy are one and the same! Jesus is His own daddy, so whoever believes this has to believe that Jesus set up the situation whereby He could happily slaughter little babies, and others.
Jesus is His own dad, do I really need to say how ridiculous Christianity is? :laugh: