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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
This is off topic, but "only humans" can't walk on water and raise people from the dead.
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jar Member Posts: 30934 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ringo Member Posts: 16136 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.1 |
There are two kinds of masons/Masons:
A Mason isn't necessarily a mason and a mason isn't necessarily a Mason. A Mason has no business telling a mason, "You're No True Mason," and a mason has no business telling a Mason, "You're no true mason." ------------- Similarly, there are Christians who belong to a chapter of the Christian club. One Christian has no business telling another Christian that his chapter is unaccredited. There are also christians who work with the bricks and mortar of christianity on a daily basis. Christians have no business telling christians that they're No True Christians, even if they're not official members of the club. And christians have no business telling Christians that they're no true christians even if they don't work with the bricks and mortar of christianity. ------------- (To further confuse the issue, I capitalize both types of Christian out of respect.) “Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels ------------- Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Someone could lie about their beliefs to get into the club. If they don't really believe the bylaws then they're not really a Christian, no matter if the club lets them in or not.
It means that you try to live your life as he prescribed and that you believe in him. And that has EVERYTHING to do with being a Christian.
Yeah, by definition of being in the club. But that is not how a True Christian is defined.
I don't think so.
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ringo Member Posts: 16136 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.1 |
It's the "Christian qualifier" that we're trying to discover in this thread. You're treating your own assumptions as a given.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Touché. But did he raise somebody from the dead?
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Yes, we are. So what are they? I'd say they are, very simply, believing and following Jesus.
More like I'm treating my opinions as correct :D
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jar Member Posts: 30934 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As long as they consistently lie about the bylaws, they are still members and so Christians.
It still has NOTHING to do with being a "Christian".
Ah, the No True Scotsman fallacy rears its head. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member Posts: 30934 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Jesus said that the Apostles would do such miracles. And in addition, Jesus never claimed that he did the miracles but rather God working through him. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ringo Member Posts: 16136 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.1 |
Suppose you're driving down the highway (having missed the bus to New Jersey) and a police officer flags you down and tells you the road is closed ahead. There's a bridge out. You have to take a detour. You say, "Okay, I believe you," and you continue driving down the road, repeating to yourself, "Yup, I sure do believe that police officer," until you go sailing into the Delaware River. Following a belief means doing something about it, not just "believing" it. “Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels ------------- Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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petrophysics1 Inactive Member |
I would describe a Christian as someone who believes the Old Roman Creed. This is from the second century and would be the earliest compiled statement of faith.(What you needed to believe to be a Christian then, NOT what you need to believe to be a Christian now, according to some people) The Old Roman Creed Note that this creed says NOT a single thing about scripture or it being literally correct or true or it being "the word of God". Not surprising since The Old Roman Creed predates the "bible" by about 150 years, but I would think if they thought old books important they would have mentioned them in a statement of faith. Early Christians had no "bible" but they were still Christians. P.S. Does this creed say Jesus Christ= God, or does it say Jesus Christ= the only son of God?
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Define "Christian". Wait, let me guess: "Christian" = a person who is in a Christian club. Well, this thread is about what a True Christian is. Not what a Club Christian is. They are different things.
So what makes a True Christian? Believing the Creed, right? Not just being a part of the club (which doesn't require actually believing the creed).
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Yeah, that's why I typed believing AND following Jesus.
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Brian Member (Idle past 3004 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Paul did.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
That works for me.
What's that part about being the Lord mean?
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