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brendatucker
Member (Idle past 5129 days)
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From: West Hills, CA
Joined: 05-22-2008


Message 36 of 40 (470944)
06-13-2008 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Percy
04-26-2008 7:31 AM


News about life
I like your situation and I hope you aren't going to discourage any more comments because even if you can't discuss the issue any further with your wife, you can still discuss the issue with us. Who knows? Maybe you will change.
I like what you said about being poor and being alone and think about how we should have sympathy for people who cling to the emotions that permeate this feeling of "light" that we get from others practicing religion.
I also appreciate the list you give in your first post which is this:
a) The world is no older than 6000 years.
b) There were once people who lived to the ripe old age of 900.
c) God speaks to the Watch Tower (or more specifically through Jehovah's Witness' "anointed" ones) who in turn "educate" the followers.
d) Blood transfusions are against the word of God, thus if any injury would result in the necessity of a blood transfusion she would *refuse* and die for her beliefs.
When you introduced yourself, you gave your occupation, a strong dedication that you have to science methodolgy, and a philosophical belief system that you place yourself in, but when you introduced your wife, you just gave a compliment that she is lovely.
I used to work as a real estate appraiser and now with the economy so bad, I don't have anything to do with my time. I don't want to let the housekeeper go, but I should so that we can contribute more to the college funds.
You might like to hear about a new theory of evolution that I write about on my webpage, but I hope that you see the predicament that some people are in without livelihoods that occupy their time. You are committed to thinking. It is in your work, in your hobbies, and in your ideology, but thinking doesn't produce jobs for some people. What they do with their minds could be characterized as "a miss" by some people who find no redeeming benefit from the person's thoughts.
I know because I have struggled for over 13 years trying to promote a new theory of evolution. I don't have anything to do with my time all day and my son wants to be picked up from school. My job was very hard and I worked long hours, but now I don't seem to be fit. So I exercise and occasionally try a post here.
Back to the subject. First and foremost, isn't it possible for your wife to store parts of her own blood in some way that would make it possible for her blood to be returned to her if the need arises?
Education from the Watchtower isn't just education. It is also news and stimulating questioning. It's nice to be in group that "thinks" together and I hope you encourage her.
Whether 900 or 6000 isn't really so important. I too have studied new age religions where I learned that humans have lived on earth for 300 million years according to the claim by theosophists and then again by Ascended Master Saint Germain, we hear that humans and earth have only been here for 4 million years. A direct contradiction even though both organizations claim to be Saint Germain associated. I think part of the solution to the claims can be attributed to nomenclature. What is human and earth to one person may not be distinct enough in definition and hence couldn't we claim that human is limited only to this current form of life we know and earth too when we speak of it, refers only to this type of earth - not an earth with other life on it?
And may I ask, "Is there any room at the top? I'd like to move up."

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brendatucker
Member (Idle past 5129 days)
Posts: 168
From: West Hills, CA
Joined: 05-22-2008


Message 38 of 40 (470951)
06-13-2008 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Hyroglyphx
06-13-2008 3:01 PM


Side Question
Do you think that if this new theory of evolution were accepted, that many agnostics and those in religions other than Christianity would aspire to participating in Christianity?
Since theosophy encourages a study of all religions, which some people may find importune and Saint Germain Foundation requires such strict adherence to purity of life: abstaining from all alcohol, meat-eating, and often a toned down sexual life, Christianity still serves a very useful purpose for those who would rather be more mainstream in their approach, leaving the hard-core, radical, and serious-minded researchers the job of assessing and manipulating the data in the two new age groups I mentioned.
That's a pretty long sentence.
Christianity could take in lots more students because they have a nice middle-of-the-road approach that more people will be willing to participate in. These same people could satisfy their curiosity by reading about steps being taken and accomplishments being made by the researchers and schools can just be kept out of it.

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brendatucker
Member (Idle past 5129 days)
Posts: 168
From: West Hills, CA
Joined: 05-22-2008


Message 40 of 40 (470963)
06-13-2008 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Hyroglyphx
06-13-2008 3:55 PM


Intro to Christianity
Even those people who haven't heard "a new theory of evolution" are able to conceive of levels in their desire, need, and ability to perform according to the dictates of religion. There has always been plenty of room for newcomers or beginners, as well as plenty of depth for those who give their life to it. There is also plenty of flexibility even within Christianity for people to branch out, seek new horizons, visit those Christians with slightly different approaches, etc.
The demands of our time present the individual with intensive occupational situations that are not always conducive to social interactions and until society reorders itself or makes provisions for occurrences that are beyond our control, the ability, need, or desire of the person is not always the deciding factor in who qualifies for the benefits of Christianity.
The Great Dispensation provides as much payment for the latecomers to the field as it does to those who have worked the whole day. In other words, we all get paid in "ascension by the girasas" whether or not we are there the whole time or a new arrival.
Limitations in a person's character or will, just make us ask all the more questions about how this ascension is to occur. We know that our bodies change and become improved by having the girasas live in us. We know that the girasas bring powers, but we don't all know how to handle them or communicate about it. We live apart from research facilities and methods. We want science to take us in so we can learn more about how to apply what we know and discover what we don't.
Talking about what I discovered falls on deaf ears everywhere, when in actuality, I just want to be able to pick up a book again and be interested. No one (not novelist or historian) is writing about my discovery and so when I read, I feel like I am reading old worn-out material that needs refreshing.

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