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iano
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Message 11 of 68 (468467)
05-29-2008 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Perdition
05-29-2008 11:37 AM


Re: It is an Example of Salvation through Faith and Obedience
God, who is the Creator, did not like the choices that His creation had made.
Perdition writes:
This is the sort of assertion I have a hard time wrapping my head around. If God is omniscient and knows the future, then even before he made Adam, he would have known about this necessity. He would have known that he would need to effectively start over with his little "humanity" experiment.
What's so hard to get your head around?
If God doesn't see into the future (because he is 'outside' time, meaning that there is no such thing as future to see into - from his perspective) then one way to know about things that happen in (what we conceive of as) the future (because we are 'inside' time) is by observing them - now.
That is to say, all points in time; our past, our present and our future would all be now to God. Seeing as he is infinitely big, he would have an infinite amount of eyes with which to view every moment and micromoment in time. Every frame in the whole show, from start to finish being viewed simultaneously...now
Which raises entertaining thoughts as to infinite spannering on the works. We fantasise about time machines and about going back to change something in the past so as to immediately alter the situation at present. But there is no reason why God can't do the same - any number of points in time being spannered on at the same time. The consequences of those moments being spannered on would instantaneously alter all 'future' moments.
We couldn't detect it of course. What we consider to be our fixed past would only be the result of whatever route we happen to have arrived at our present. Change the route to the present and we'll find ourselves at a different present. Perhaps rips in the Matrix could appear - from whence stories of reincarnation
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He would have known that he would need to effectively start over with his little "humanity" experiment.
I'm not sure anything went wrong with the experiment. Man was created with an ability to choose. Man choose. That's a success.
If Gods plan was to create beings who could choose to spend eternity with him or eternity without him (the fundamental basis of any good relationship being choice for/against) - and that is what he ends up with: some with him and some without him then I can't see that his plan hasn't worked according to plan.
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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