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Wumpini Member (Idle past 5785 days) Posts: 229 From: Ghana West Africa Joined: |
If we really want to know why there was a need for a global flood, we need to look in the Bible.
____________________________________________________________________ The Old Testament was written for our example - Read 1 Cor 10:11-12
quote: ___________________________________________________________________ From the beginning God established Law (The Law of Sin and Death) .......Read Genesis Chapters 1 through 3 (Creation - Link is below) Genesis 1 NKJV - The History of Creation - In the - Bible Gateway .......Especially read Genesis 2:16-17
quote: .......Then read Eze 18:20, Is 59:1-2, Rom 3:23; 6:23
quote: quote: quote: quote: __________________________________________________________________ Through FAITH in Jesus Christ that results in Obedience, we can overcome the Law of Sin and Death (Romans 8:1-2)
quote: ...... Read Genesis Chapters 6 through 9 (The Flood - Link is below) Genesis 6; NKJV - The Wickedness and Judgment of Man - Bible Gateway; ...... Especially read Genesis 6:22
quote: ...... Then read Hebrews 11 (espec. 11:6-7); Eph 2:8-10; 1 Pet 3:20-22
quote: quote: quote: ___________________________________________________________________ God is teaching us through Noah and the Flood the type of Faith that is necessary for Salvation. ___________________________________________________________________ A Global Flood with extreme consequences drives home this message that we must Believe and Obey God (Heb 11:6-7).
quote: ___________________________________________________________________ It is the Most Important TRUTH that anyone will ever learn.
quote: That is FREE from the Law of Sin and Death.
quote: ____________________________________________________________________ Thanks "There is one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods; and that is, the sincere desire to find out the truth, whatever it may be." - Charles Sanders Pierce
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Wumpini Member (Idle past 5785 days) Posts: 229 From: Ghana West Africa Joined: |
cavediver writes: By killing off the entire population of the world bar Noah + close family The Bible says:
quote: It saddened God to see how wicked the people had become. It kind of makes you think a lot of how the earth is today. The thoughts of men's hearts were evil continually. God, who is the Creator, did not like the choices that His creation had made. Therefore, because of their disobedience mankind deserved Judgment and Punishment. That is Justice.
cavediver writes: By inflicting such incomprehensible terror upon every young child on the planet??? You have no idea what kind of terror every young child on the planet went through at the time of the flood. You say incomprehensible terror. The Scriptures say nothing about these children experiencing terror. Let us think about this for a moment though. The entire world was wicked and evil continually. Where does that put children? Is it not possible that their life was already a living terror? Small children being abused sexually. Could that be part of this wickedness? Child sacrifice. Could that be part of this wickedness that permeated the world? Think of every way an innocent child could be abused, and then apply that all over the earth. And not only abused, what did the Scriptures say? These evil thoughts were continual. I do not believe that it would have been a very nice place for a child to live on this earth during the days before the flood. Now let us suppose that God wanted to take that child to Heaven. A wonderful place where there is no evil. Is it wicked for God to take a child out of an evil place and put them into a wonderful place? I think that is Merciful. I think that is Loving. Those children were much better off after the flood than before. Now the same is not true of the adults. That is where you can talk about incomprehensible terror. That is the Judgment of God. You see the Scriptures tell us about the terror that these people will suffer for eternity in HELL. The least of their terror was the flood. The little discomfort that they felt drowning during the flood will not even compare to the incomprehensible terror they will endure for eternity. That is Justice. That is because God is Just. God gives everyone a choice. We have a choice right now. We all know that we do. We can choose to believe in God or disbelieve. We can choose to obey God or disobey God. God has no choice. He must punish those who disobey. That is Justice, and God is Just. So, when the time comes for Judgment (and I know that many of you believe this is a fairy tale), God will give you what you deserve.Let us think logically about this. If there is a God, and you have a choice, and you reject that God, then what do you think you deserve. I can assure you that there is not going to be an opportunity to debate the Judgment. It will be automatic. What could we say anyway on that Judgment Day? We could say that we did not know about God? That is a lie. We could say that everyone else was rejecting God. Okay, so you get the same punishment that everyone else gets that rejects God. We could say that science has determined that God does not exist. Sorry, science was wrong. What could we possibly say to change God's Judgment of ourselves on that day? NOTHING! The same is true of those on the day of the Flood. They knew God existed. They chose to turn from God. They were punished and they will continue to be punished for eternity. That is Justice. You see there was a need for the Flood. We need the lesson of the Flood today. That lesson is that there are two paths we can choose. We have the choice. One of those paths requires Faith and Obedience in the God of the Bible, and it leads to Salvation (Just like Noah). Very few people will be on that path. The other path requires nothing. If you do nothing and believe nothing then you are automatically on that path. You do not have to be a bad person. All you have to do is Not Believe in the God of the Bible. And that path leads to destruction and eternal punishment like those who were destroyed in the Flood. It is definitely something to think about. Eternity is a long, long time. When this universe is gone, then eternity will only be beginning. Thanks Edited by Wumpini, : spelling "There is one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods; and that is, the sincere desire to find out the truth, whatever it may be." - Charles Sanders Pierce
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Wumpini Member (Idle past 5785 days) Posts: 229 From: Ghana West Africa Joined: |
Wumpini writes: Let us think about this for a moment though. The entire world was wicked and evil continually. Where does that put children? Is it not possible that their life was already a living terror? Small children being abused sexually. Could that be part of this wickedness? Child sacrifice. Could that be part of this wickedness that permeated the world? Think of every way an innocent child could be abused, and then apply that all over the earth
Straggler writes: Did the scriptures say this? This is not a quote from the Scriptures. The Scriptures do talk about the wickedness and continual evil in the world. The remainder of that statement was my perception of how children could suffer in a world such as the one that the Bible describes. The Scriptures are clear about sins such as sexual immorality and there are examples of child sacrifice. I was hoping that this wording would give the idea that it was my perception of Scripture:
quote: I am not saying that you are right or wrong only that you seem to be very specific with regard to what the scriptures say in response to Cavediver's point regarding the horrors of a flood whilst seeming fairly speculative when it comes to your own interpretation of the horrors inflicted on children due to mans wickedness. It just seems inconsistent. That is my only point. Looking back, it was probably inconsistent. I should have been clearer about what I was trying to say. I think the term incomprehensible really struck me. I should have chosen my words more carefully. "There is one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods; and that is, the sincere desire to find out the truth, whatever it may be." - Charles Sanders Pierce
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