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Author Topic:   Religion does not give a solid basis to morality
anastasia
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Message 15 of 20 (408595)
07-03-2007 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by mick
06-05-2007 4:36 AM


Re: Re-Religion does not give a solid basis to morality
mick writes:
Which is exactly my point. If the Bible can be used to justify any moral or ethical position ranging from being nice to one's neighbor to conducting genocide against that neighbor, then it doesn't seem a very firm foundation for our ethics does it?
I seems that you are pre-supposing the Bible as the 'firm foundation' which Christians speak of.
I also suspect that you posted a list of opinions, without specific recourse to what the Bible actually says. For instance, even if some Christians celebrate homosexuality, there is no occasion in the Bible itself where it is celebrated.
On other topics, where there is discrepency in the Bible, it is reason which must be the judge of actions, in the same relativistic way that they are always judged. You are mistaken in the belief that Christians are absolutist concerning individual actions. No thing is always good, but good is always good. In other words, it is a 'real' thing which has meaning outside of the temporary question of 'what' is good.
What is implied is that Christians have a reason to do good, whereas the reasons for others in doing good, are contingent upon what the 'good' is.
It is either goodness as an absolute state attainable by man, regardless of how he gets there, or goodness as a temporary phenomenon associated with the passable result of an action in realtion to its goal.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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anastasia
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Message 20 of 20 (408618)
07-03-2007 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by tudwell
07-03-2007 6:36 PM


tudwell writes:
That makes sense. But saying "absolute morality" seems to imply that all of that morality's rules are absolute and hold in all situations. This obviously isn't the case, even (especially?) with Christians. As I pointed out above, many Christians oppose abortion but support the death penalty.
Can't speak for everyone, but being Christian, yes, the OP is flawed in its definition of 'absolute' concerning religion.

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