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Phat
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Message 136 of 207 (285827)
02-11-2006 9:46 AM
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02-11-2006 9:26 AM


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Silent H
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Message 137 of 207 (285958)
02-12-2006 11:26 AM
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02-11-2006 8:56 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet?
He stands outside of time and "pretends" not to know how the soap opera will end---just as we do when we watch reruns of movies we have seen!
So a person sitting around watching reruns of crappy reality tv programs is getting close to God? I don't know if he's bored, but I'd be.

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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dorkfrommarn
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Message 138 of 207 (286349)
02-14-2006 3:19 AM
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02-12-2006 11:26 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet?
So a person sitting around watching reruns of crappy reality tv programs is getting close to God? I don't know if he's bored, but I'd be.
I think that the reason God is not bored is mainly because he gets to glorify himself (made possible by the trinity) for all eternity. he doesn't entertain himself with anything we do but glorify him. this is because if were not glorifying him then chances are we're sinning, which he doesn't like.
I think in one of my previous posts I gave a link to a good explanation of the trinity.

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Silent H
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Message 139 of 207 (286353)
02-14-2006 4:07 AM
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02-14-2006 3:19 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet?
I think that the reason God is not bored is mainly because he gets to glorify himself (made possible by the trinity) for all eternity.
So a person sitting around watching a mirror and sometimes glancing at reruns of crappy reality tv programs is getting close to God? Still not too exciting to me.

holmes
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dorkfrommarn
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Message 140 of 207 (286365)
02-14-2006 7:14 AM
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02-14-2006 4:07 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
So a person sitting around watching a mirror and sometimes glancing at reruns of crappy reality tv programs is getting close to God? Still not too exciting to me.
a mirror that reflects an infinitely great person and a great tv show full of (mostly) people praising him is more like it. I seriously doubt God is bored
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Silent H
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Message 141 of 207 (286368)
02-14-2006 7:27 AM
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02-14-2006 7:14 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
a mirror that reflects an infinitely great person
How can he be infinitely great if there are people that don't like him, and entities that he must fight but cannot destroy?
and a great tv show full of (mostly) people praising him is more like it. I seriously doubt God is bored
Less than half the world's population is Xian, though I suppose if you include all monotheists it may be that way. It certainly wasn't that way for a long time. In any case our antics will be the same as seen on any reality program. The best you have added is an evangelist bible program.
Snooze.

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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dorkfrommarn
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Message 142 of 207 (286371)
02-14-2006 8:13 AM
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02-14-2006 7:27 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
How can he be infinitely great if there are people that don't like him, and entities that he must fight but cannot destroy?
first of all, a human's opinion in the matter of God being infinitely great has absolutely nothing to do in the matter. God can and will destroy those who oppose him, he's giving them a choice.
Less than half the world's population is Xian, though I suppose if you include all monotheists it may be that way. It certainly wasn't that way for a long time. In any case our antics will be the same as seen on any reality program. The best you have added is an evangelist bible program.
I was exagerating to make a point. Obviously you don't understand what I am saying. God delights in those who praise him THAT is part of his "entertainment". It is in no way related to any reality program.

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Silent H
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Message 143 of 207 (286525)
02-14-2006 2:25 PM
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02-14-2006 8:13 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
first of all, a human's opinion in the matter of God being infinitely great has absolutely nothing to do in the matter.
Perhaps you can explain how something can be infinitely great, if a portion (not matter how small) thinks it is not great. By definition that would put a limit on its greatness, and so it is not infinite in its greatness. Killing the outliers changes nothing.
God delights in those who praise him THAT is part of his "entertainment".
I thought vanity or pride were deadly sins?

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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dorkfrommarn
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Message 144 of 207 (286747)
02-15-2006 2:01 AM
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02-14-2006 2:25 PM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
Perhaps you can explain how something can be infinitely great, if a portion (not matter how small) thinks it is not great. By definition that would put a limit on its greatness, and so it is not infinite in its greatness. Killing the outliers changes nothing.
I don't see how any number of imperfect persons' opinions can change a fact.
I thought vanity or pride were deadly sins?
Thats only for us, because we aren't perfect. When you're perfect feel free to be as prideful as you want.

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Silent H
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Message 145 of 207 (286771)
02-15-2006 5:38 AM
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02-15-2006 2:01 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
I don't see how any number of imperfect persons' opinions can change a fact.
Infinite by definition has no end. As soon as one person does not think you are great, that would by definition create a limit on how great you are. Clearly you could be greater if that one person thought you were great as well.
Thats only for us, because we aren't perfect. When you're perfect feel free to be as prideful as you want.
So when you are imperfect you are held to a higher standard than those who are perfect? I don't know why, but that seems like an imperfection. I've never enjoyed people that love sycophants, your God sounds like a preening asshole (e.g. a megalomaniac tv star or something).
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dorkfrommarn
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Message 146 of 207 (286778)
02-15-2006 6:05 AM
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02-15-2006 5:38 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
Infinite by definition has no end. As soon as one person does not think you are great, that would by definition create a limit on how great you are. Clearly you could be greater if that one person thought you were great as well.
if you have a gun and someone thinks you don't know how to shoot doesn't affect whether you can shoot or not. opinion does not limit or define fact in any way
So when you are imperfect you are held to a higher standard than those who are perfect? I don't know why, but that seems like an imperfection. I've never enjoyed people that love sycophants, your God sounds like a preening asshole (e.g. a megalomaniac tv star or something).
The reason that we cannot be prideful is because when we are we lie to ourselves and to others about how good we are. And Because God is infinite he cannot think of himself greater than he is
that would by definition create a limit on how great you are.
Definition of infinite
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Silent H
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Message 147 of 207 (286783)
02-15-2006 6:13 AM
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02-15-2006 6:05 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
if you have a gun and someone thinks you don't know how to shoot doesn't affect whether you can shoot or not. opinion does not limit or define fact in any way
That's a very limited case. You said "infinitely great". Define infinite and great and then present a similar scenario as above. You will find it is not consistent unless you have a very different definition of either.
The reason that we cannot be prideful is because when we are we lie to ourselves and to others about how good we are. And Because God is infinite he cannot think of himself greater than he is
Then why does he get mad at people when they tell him he's fat?

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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dorkfrommarn
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Message 148 of 207 (286784)
02-15-2006 6:24 AM
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02-15-2006 6:13 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
That's a very limited case. You said "infinitely great". Define infinite and great and then present a similar scenario as above. You will find it is not consistent unless you have a very different definition of either.
Definitions:
Infinite
Great
lets say you could run infinitely fast (despite of course the impossibilities), but a friend of yours doesn't believe it, does that affect whether you can or can't?
Then why does he get mad at people when they tell him he's fat?
well at least I made my point
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Silent H
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Message 149 of 207 (286818)
02-15-2006 9:37 AM
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02-15-2006 6:24 AM


Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
lets say you could run infinitely fast (despite of course the impossibilities), but a friend of yours doesn't believe it, does that affect whether you can or can't?
Nope, because being fast has nothing to do with being great which does entail respect, unless you just meant massive?
well at least I made my point
??? No, it doesn't make sense. If he can never think himself greater than he is, then what can cause him to be angry when people dismiss a certain aspect of himself? He would already understand that as well.

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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dorkfrommarn
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Message 150 of 207 (286850)
02-15-2006 10:55 AM
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Re: God? Are You Bored, yet? No.
Nope, because being fast has nothing to do with being great which does entail respect, unless you just meant massive?
Is a kings greatness diminished because one of his subjects doesn't respect him? I still don't understand how that would work???
??? No, it doesn't make sense. If he can never think himself greater than he is, then what can cause him to be angry when people dismiss a certain aspect of himself? He would already understand that as well.
????? wait, what does this have to do with pride????

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