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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Oops. That leave me out! The only thing as bad as Jerry Fallwell is Jerry Springer! Jerry Springer is awesome. He has a really good political talk radio show
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Exactly. It's not just 9/11. It's all over America, one place at a time pretty much covering the whole nation. You can see it from Katrina, to the interior breadbasket states and from all the coastlines. God's protection on America is being withdrawn exactly as fortold by the prophets of old pertaining to the last days of apostacy before the prophesied soon coming 2nd advent of Jesus to judge and to rule the world in righteousness. The wrath of God is emerging upon the planet and this is only the beginning! Is this a joke? Seriously dude, it's hard to tell if your posts are jokes or not
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
It is a question of degrees. Look at the situation today, is it not a higher degree? I don't believe God is responsible for most natural disasters! But He can protect us if we look to Him. There was good and bad the last century as well. But look at all the good He allowed to happen for the US! They were able to be get bibles and missionaries all over the place, and prospered as a result. I don't know what your problem is with sex either. That was the first commandment. Be fruitful-something, incidentilly men of Sodom could not be. Actually Buz, the simple fact is that the coming of christianity to american resulted in the most wide spread slaughter and death ever witnessed in north american. The arrival of christianity in America resulted in 95% of the native population being wiped out Edited by SuperNintendo Chalmers, : No reason given.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Christian missionaries never mass murdered anyone that I ever heard of. Nor did Jesus. What kind of nonsense are you spouting? You aren't too familiar with the history of the Americas are you? I recommend you study the history of what happened in north and south america from 1500-1800. In 200 years 95% of all people who had been leaving in north america were dead. Now, was this all christian missionaries? Of course not... but it was done by christians for the most part; often in the name of the church (particulary in spain's case). I am going to stop assuming that US history is required in high school.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
If ever I was going to give you good advice and to have you reject and forsake anything else that I say, take this one thing onboard. We don't judge Christ by Christians, judge Christians by Christ, as even the very name means 'Christ-like.'. Anytime a self-proclaimed Christian commits atrocities, such as what you described, never knew God. Jesus also warns that people will come in His name with the appearance of a sheep, but inwardly, they are ferocious wolves. There are only three types of people in this world: Sheeps, goats, and wolves, and by their fruits, you will recognize them. Ok, well now at least I know how to judge evangelicals (falwell, robertson, dobson, and all their followers), prez bush, the religious right, etc. I'm glad to know that most self proclaimed christians never knew god I'm glad to know that I can tell who the real christians are by whether they do anything bad or not. In fact, I'm not sure we even have any here at EvC I so love the "no true christian" defense. Edited by SuperNintendo Chalmers, : No reason given.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Um, 95% of the population was wiped out. In other words only the population of native peoples was reduced to 5% of its former level.
Where am I getting my stats?..... Um, history textbooks.... Most modern textbooks cover this.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5855 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Since everyone here seems to be completely ignorant of even basic US history (big surprise, this happens almost every time a topic deals with US history) I guess I'll have to provide yet ANOTHER high school level refresher.
Genocide of Natives in the Western Hemisphere, starting 1492 CE Some excerpts:
"By then [1891] the native population had been reduced to 2.5% of its original numbers and 97.5% of the aboriginal land base had been expropriated....Hundreds upon hundreds of native tribes with unique languages, learning, customs, and cultures had simply been erased from the face of the earth, most often without even the pretense of justice or law." Peter Montague
Later European Christian invaders systematically murdered additional Aboriginal people, from the Canadian Arctic to South America. They used warfare, death marches, forced relocation to barren lands, destruction of their main food supply -- the Buffalo -- and poisoning. Oppression continued into the 20th century, through actions by governments and religious organizations which systematically destroyed Native culture and religious heritage. One present-day byproduct of this oppression is suicide. Today, Canadian Natives have the highest suicide rate of any identifiable population group in the world. Columbus described the Arawaks -- the Native people in the West Indies -- as timid, artless, free, and generous. He rewarded them with death and slavery. For his second voyage to the Americas, "Columbus took the title 'Admiral of the Ocean Sea' and proceeded to unleash a reign of terror unlike anything seen before or since. When he was finished, eight million Arawaks -- virtually the entire native population of Hispaniola -- had been exterminated by torture, murder, forced labor, starvation, disease and despair." 1 A Spanish missionary, Bartolome de las Casas, described eye-witness accounts of mass murder, torture and rape. 2 Author Barry Lopez, summarizing Las Casas' report wrote: "One day, in front of Las Casas, the Spanish dismembered, beheaded, or raped 3000 people. 'Such inhumanities and barbarisms were committed in my sight,' he says, 'as no age can parallel....' The Spanish cut off the legs of children who ran from them. They poured people full of boiling soap. They made bets as to who, with one sweep of his sword, could cut a person in half. They loosed dogs that 'devoured an Indian like a hog, at first sight, in less than a moment.' They used nursing infants for dog food." 3 The Spaniards eventually went on to conquer Mexico and the southern U.S. The English, on the other hand, had no use for the native peoples. They saw them as devil worshippers, savages who were beyond salvation by the church, and exterminating them increasingly became accepted policy." 5 David E. Stannard wrote: "Hundreds of Indians were killed in skirmish after skirmish. Other hundreds were killed in successful plots of mass poisoning. They were hunted down by dogs, 'blood-Hounds to draw after them, and Mastives [mastiffs] to seize them.' Their canoes and fishing weirs were smashed, their villages and agricultural fields burned to the ground. Indian peace offers were accepted by the English only until their prisoners were returned; then, having lulled the natives into false security, the colonists returned to the attack. It was the colonists' expressed desire that the Indians be exterminated, rooted 'out from being longer a people upon the face of the earth.' In a single raid the settlers destroyed corn sufficient to feed four thousand people for a year. Starvation and the massacre of non-combatants was becoming the preferred British approach to dealing with the natives." 4 Did missionaries actually participate in the killings? Probably some did, but who knows... but all of these atrocities (and many more) were carried out by Christians often using religious justification. Does this mean christians are worse than other groups. No, not really; all groups have done crap like this throughout history.
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