Who to believe , Ham or Ross?

And we are the nattering nabobs of negativism I suppose.I want to know if this "science can't know history" theme is something you picked up during or since posting dozens of times questioning the underpinnings of geology, or if it was a planned fallback position or intentional destination.Looking at past events has a place in human endeavor. Numerous examples of forensics have been mentioned and ignored.It has also been shown that looking at physical evidence can corroborate or refute historical accounts. Taking any historical text as exact reportage is frightfully naive. Requiring historical text as a foundation for any investigation puts you even more centuries behind and speaks volumes about your curiosity for the natural world.ABB

Ross has a relevant science degree and seems to require fewer miracles than YECs. His sort of OEC belief falls well short of theisic evolutionism.I don't know much about Ham specifically other than seeming to remember that is is one of the "you weren't there so what do you know" crowd.I find it interesting that the Trinity Broadcasting Network has two shows about creation. One is the YEC Carl Baugh's production in three good time slots. Ross has one show that plays at 4:30 in the morning. The conservatives at TBN seem to favor the YEC view.Ross is interesting and shows an astronomical argument against a 6000 yr world, but he still balks at faunal succession and requires a few 'stocking' miracles now and again. I don't remember his version of geology. Some of his biology seems stretched but he beats the YECers in science hands down.ABB

I've caught a few of Ross's shows but have yet to spend much time at Reasons to Believe website. Most of my impressions were from a recording of Ross vs Scott in a radio debate. I appreciate any insight as to his philosophy.It is interesting that he considers God knowable. It seems that some YEC's consider God unknowable through the physical world and treat some parts of earth history as a mystery. Ross has fewer problems with time constraints, but I seem to remember more than a few clinkers in regards to mainstream evolutionary thought. I will look for that radio audio in my link list.ABB