Who to believe , Ham or Ross?

1. It happened.
2. Any evidence that indicates it didn't happen is to be ignored. It's all just speculation.
3. Any wild speculation, even that contrary to all known laws, that appears to justify a global flood is evidence for that flood. Pay no attention to the justification for ignoring evidence that no such flood happened.

Quite a bit about the relationship of God and Man. Yup. Example: Jesus's parables. "Mythical" does not mean "baldfaced lie". Not everything in the Bible is intended literally.

No. It's hearsay. And, as Charles pointed out, your claim that it has been taken as true history for 3,000 years is an unsupported asserion. The fundamentalist and evangelical movements, and their interpretatioins of the Bible, are pretty recent phenomena. All histories thet I've seen (and I'm not an expert) agree that the "literal" interpretation of the Bible is a recent phenomenon also.

The problem is that we are too literate to believe that the Bible has been taken as true history by great Bible researchers all the way back; although I'm no expert, I've read enough to know that your claim is untrue. Well, you might not need that much, but some evidence other than your bare assertion is required.

OK, some scholars did believe that the Bible is compeletely literal. And some didn't. Notably Augustine; your attempt to avoid the plain mening of his text, regardless of the meaning of the word "tupos", is very amusing.

Yeah, and the U.S. won a famous victory in Vietnam.

I know, I know ... but I've got to post this somewhereIn Message 101 Admin posted Faith's image. I guess she (is that settled?) is asking why we don't see that sort of thing. The answer is that we do see that sort of thing, in radar images and seismic images and satellite images and borehole chains and what-not ... and these observations are obviously incompatible with a global flood. Faith's just tremendously overestimating the likelyhood of such features breaking through to view in a place like the Grand Canyon.From River Channels Buried deep in the Geologic Column, a picture of channels in Pleistocene rock: From We've Done Rivers, Let's Do Canyons, an Eocene canyon buried a mile under the ocean floor: (Lots more pictures and discussion at the above URLs).From Space radar image of Wadi Kufra, Libya, another buried river: From South Africa, Namibia Diamond Deposits a look at the ancient course of the Orange River, where diamonds might be found: From SUBSURFACE MORPHOLOGY AND GEOARCHAEOLOGY REVEALED BY SPACEBORNE AND AIRBORNE RADAR one of the first SIR-A pictures of channels just beneath the Sahara desert: From Salt water timebombs buried terrain in eastern Australia: Finally, from Komex Geophysics: Seismic Refraction and Reflection, another seismic of a buried channel: