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Author Topic:   What you want to know about Christ.
New Cat's Eye
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Message 121 of 300 (428982)
10-18-2007 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by nator
10-17-2007 6:20 PM


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her proposal was that as the church evolved over the course of 300 years, they just developed new books to fit their needs.
No, that's not what I said.
What did you mean by this:
schraf in msg 70 writes:
It is also great evidence that myth changes as the needs of the religion change.
John is very different in character than the other three Gospels. All the talk of a literal, in-the-flesh, very, very soon Second Coming present in the others is downplayed in John. Jesus's gift to us was changed into a spiritual, symbolic rebirth rather than the military victory of the rest of the Gospels.
That's why the timing of the crucifiction was changed. Jesus becomes the symbolic "sacrificial Passover lamb" for all of humanity.
You did say that the myth changes as the need changes, so brenna got that part right. You did not mention the "church", so who do you think implimented the change in the timing of the crucifiction? Just John? It certainly sounds like you saying that new books were developed to fit the needs. Is your only contention with the word "church"? Maybe brenna meant something other than what you are defining as the "church".

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 127 of 300 (429032)
10-18-2007 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by nator
10-18-2007 12:01 PM


When brenna mentioned "the church", she wrote, "THE CHURCH", which I took to mean Roman Catholicism. That wasn't what I was referring to at all.
Oh, I didn't read it that way. I read it more like: "John, and whatever early sect he was a part of and most influenced by."
The other books read far more like straight histories, and those other books have Jesus coming back from the dead as a military leader who would deliver the Israelites from their oppressive masters. The "Kingdom on Earth".
I don't see it that way.
But whatever, I don't really care to discuss it. I was just confused by what you said and now I'm not. Thanks for the clarification.

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