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sidelined
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Message 78 of 294 (334728)
07-24-2006 3:56 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
07-24-2006 3:22 AM


Re: Wow
Faith
All I'm saying is that the Bible witnesses are completely trustworthy and what they witness about is a zillion times more important than what anybody else on the earth ever witnessed.
Yet all of these were "fallen" men according to you. What is it that makes their testimony of greater veracity than all others since, like all of us, {according to you} they, too, have sinned and are capable of deciet and being decieved.
It is only by blind acceptance of that which you wish to be true that you can claim that all are fallen and sinful in nature while yet giving special dispensation to those within the narrow confines of biblical origin.
You're hypocrisy shines through here Faith. Perhaps you should hide it better.

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sidelined
Member (Idle past 5926 days)
Posts: 3435
From: Edmonton Alberta Canada
Joined: 08-30-2003


Message 102 of 294 (334802)
07-24-2006 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
07-24-2006 4:27 AM


Re: Wow
Faith
I never said fallenness meant that everybody lies all the time, and the Biblical witnesses were trained in the fear of God.
This does not mean that they were lying or not lying. It means that they are capable of lying and I state that {byou cannot know[/b] with out knowing the individuals themselves. Indeed that is the nature of deceit in that the person doing the decieving appears to be genuine.
Since there is no way to know the people's minds through mere reporting in biblical texts you do not have sufficient evidence to make such an observation save through blind acceptance that these people indeed were not decieved nor being decietful. This is the reason I state that you are being hypocritical. It is no more an ad hominem than if I were to say you are not being properly critical of the texts you would have us accept as valid.
Nevertheless , I apologize to you if you have felt personally slighted by my comment since the fact of the matter is that it is ad hominem if you consider it such.
My question still remains in place though. What makes their veracity greater than any others seperate from the function of your belief?

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