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Author Topic:   Why Would a Loving God Create Hell?
Force
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Message 112 of 196 (449136)
01-16-2008 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by grace2u
11-11-2003 6:32 PM


Grace2u,
grace2u writes:
This is not a circular argument since a good God is one of the presuppositions of the Christian view of God.
So if it is a presupposition of the entirity of Christendom that the Tetragrammaton is a good God then that would make this perception man made.
grace2u writes:
This assumption of a good God is evidenced as well as pre-supposed.
Evidenced? Presupposed? Man made?
grace2u writes:
This assumption is made in the same way an atheist pre-supposes the laws of logic, or science are valid even thought they have never been proven appart from using a curcular argument. (using logic to prove the laws of logic are true).
The idea of logic is tangible and real but however the idea of God is imaginative.
grace2u writes:
The very fact that one would ask how that can be just, provides proof of Christianity. Given that it presupposes Christianity since it implies that there is some type of injustice possible in the world. "How can a loving God do this or that?" In an atheistic view of the world the most haneous crime imaginable would still not be wrong since there is no such thing as a universal right or wrong. Evil/right/wrong do not make sense in a world apart from Christ, who is the standard of goodness. He is that by which we attempt to compare everything else to. Again, presupposed as well as evidenced.
If you assume that the Tetragrammaton is "a real God" but, frankly, the Tetragrammaton seems imaginative.

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Force
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Message 132 of 196 (449447)
01-17-2008 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Granny Magda
01-16-2008 7:39 PM


Re: on getting to heaven
GM,
The LDS faith teaches that a husband having been bound to his wife for eternity in a LDS Temple and having been equipt with the Melchizedek Priesthood can obtain exaltation to Godhood even as Jesus Christ. The LDS teaching is that we are all God's children, like Christ, but through Christ we can obtain Godhood. The Godhood leads to creation of more spiritual children, even as us, that will live a life, even as us, and also Godhood over other planets, even as ours, but however in a very distant future. So, Yes, that means that Jesus Christ/'(is married and has a wife) father+wife has a father+wife and so on. The reason the other Gods+wifes are not mentioned in the Bible is because they are not the focus of our planet.
Now the issue is that even if you can accept Jesus Christ in the afterlife and be saved; you will not be granted this Godhood in the afterlife unless you have been bound for eternity to your wife and have equipt the Melchizedek Priesthood in your life on earth.
NOTE: The trinity according to LDS teachnigs is actually three different beings but however they are all united in the same purpose.
Edited by tthzr3, : No reason given.

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Force
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Message 157 of 196 (449799)
01-19-2008 2:33 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Granny Magda
01-18-2008 8:22 AM


Re: on getting to heaven
bump
Edited by tthzr3, : No reason given.

Thank you

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Force
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Message 158 of 196 (449800)
01-19-2008 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Granny Magda
01-18-2008 8:22 AM


Re: on getting to heaven
GM,
I am not saying that you do want to become a God because there is no such thing. LOL.

Thank you

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Force
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Message 170 of 196 (449871)
01-19-2008 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Force
01-19-2008 2:34 AM


Re: on getting to heaven
Tal,
I simply do not consider a "being" that is "outside of our reach" or that we do not "understand" to be considered a "God". I find faith topics to be faith topics and they are limited to that level of truth. The level of truth that faith topics are limited to are "not varifiable" truth's.

Thank you

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