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Kader Member (Idle past 3754 days) Posts: 156 Joined: |
Scottness if you speak with God can you ask him question ?
And if you can can you ask him question that would make me a believer ?I will believe that God exist, and not any God I will faithfully embrace your ideas and religions if you simply ask God : Tell me what to write to Kader so he will believe in you Is that something that is possible ?
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Tell me what to write to Kader so he will believe in you You already do... ask for forgiveness and He will... read the Gospel of John. Matthew 10:26 "So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
EvC Forum: The significance and symbolism of the sea.
Matthew 10:26 "So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5942 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
scottness writes: All philosophies and religions are exclusive... especially the polytheistic ones. You start off wrong! Not all religions are exclusive - Buddhism comes to mind. There are even Christians who are nonexclusivist (and necessarily nonliteralist). The EvC user Jar here comes to mind. You spend way too much time building strawmen and then tearing them apart - which is what you do with the rest of your post. But in the process you make some absurd claims...
scottness writes: But to call something evil is to exclude it from being true! For if anything is the heart of evil it is falsehood. Huh? Let me try I will claim that... "Killing a fellow human in the name of God is evil" Now does that exclude it from being true. Not all that is evil is false. OFF TOPIC. Please get back to the original topic. Edited by AdminPhat, : off topic post Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 864 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
Are you talking about Polytheism or Pantheism?
Polytheism means many gods. Pantheism means all is a part of God. How can you pronounce upon all when you can't even get your words or your definitions straight? Edited by anglagard, : punctuation
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Not all religions are exclusive - Buddhism comes to mind. Yeah, does that mean Buddhists do welcome and include exclusive faiths like Christianity or must a Christian convert to inexclusivity to be enlightened? Everyone is seeking a convert. Don't let them delude you!
"Killing a fellow human in the name of God is evil" Now does that exclude it from being true. Not all that is evil is false. Yes it is... Killing in the name of God is false. They kill for their own name and use God's to exalt themselves. Slow down Iceage... You can do it... Matthew 10:26 "So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5951 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Yep, my point is they cannot be all right. So all of them(them being ppl who believe in something else) must be wrong
Of course they're all wrong. It's virtually impossible for any religion to be completely right. By the same token, many of them are right, since few religions could be completely wrong.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Polytheism means many gods. Pantheism means all is a part of God. Well, Hinduism is has no systematized theology. It is both polytheistic, and monotheistic. So it is both pantheist and polytheist. I am told by Ravi Zacharius who was rasied in India for the first twenty years of his life that is is even qualifed theism is some cases. It is what ever a person wants it to be. Gautama Buddha was born a hindu and rejected some of the cardianl doctrines. I don't know all there is to know. But I understand that the philosophy is contradictory. As for polytheistic religions such as the Greeks had, you are correct. They're not all pantheist. I should have said pantheism. Enough with the 40 lashes minus 1. I am only human. And a dumb one at that.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
How can you pronounce upon all when you can't even get your words or your definitions straight? I am only a man. I amke mistlakes. But if you are right (and I am assuming that you are a pantheist with this comment), then I am part of the all and cannot be wrong. I can only evolve, so why Lord it over me? Would you exclude mistakes if you are one who is not exclusive? You sound like you believe in logic (the law of non-contradiction) to me. What contradiction?
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5942 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
scottness writes: Yes it is... Killing in the name of God is false So the Old Testament god is false (and by your own pronouncement evil). Very clearly the children of Israel are commanded by god to kill and commit genocide. The OT god orders humans on several occasions to kill all: men, women, infants, sucklings.
scottness writes: Does that mean Buddhists do welcome and include exclusive faiths like Christianity You are mashing the term exclusive as it is being used. Exclusive religions hold to the belief that they follow the "One True God". Other views of God are are false and incompatible. Buddhists do not hold to this belief.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 864 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
Scottness writes: Enough with the 40 lashes minus 1. I am only human. And a dumb one at that. Yes, fair enough. We all make mistakes sometimes, but I disagree one should refer to oneself as dumb just over the occasional error. Or do you know something about yourself that I don't? This thread seems a more appropriate place for me to pester you when you make false accusations concerning my religion, so out of respect for the rules I will confine any future responses to here should you insist on continuing.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Very clearly the children of Israel are commanded by god to kill and commit genocide. The OT god orders humans on several occasions to kill all: men, women, infants, sucklings. I knew that was coming... You've rephrased the assertion.... The assertion now would be, 'God ordering people to kill is evil.' God ordering people to kill is not false. He's God! Men killing in the name of God is... How to tell the difference is a the problem you are having.When a man says God told him to kill, what do you do? You can't know... Only God knows, which means you are not God.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5876 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Yes, fair enough. We all make mistakes sometimes, but I disagree one should refer to oneself as dumb just over the occasional error. This thread seems a more appropriate place for me to pester you when you make false accusations concerning my religion, so out of respect for the rules I will confine any future responses to here should you insist on continuing. What did I say that is false other than the mistake you just admitted is a typical error? That certainly does not make me guilty of slander! Matthew 10:26 "So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
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Phat Member Posts: 18339 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Kader writes:
I can't tellyou any absolute pronouncement of how God works. I can say that I was born again, but whether or not I met God or whether I simply became aware of someone who was always permeating me I cannot say. I also cannot judge other religions. You’re sitting on your sofa having a casual “God” conversation with a friend, and then after maybe hours of debating you hear it. “I was reborn”“I met God” “God reached me” I’ve also read people on this forum asserting that they either speak, or feel the presence of their God. I say their God here because every religion has some followers claiming to have met with their God. Are you special ?What about the “others religious” who claim the same thing ? Why does God only speaks with believers ? I do believe that there is one God whom every religion and individual can experience. I believe that we are a product of Gods creative imagination rather than He (She or IT) being a product of our imagination. I can also say that it helps to have an open mind and heart and to assume nothing.
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5942 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
scottness writes: How to tell the difference is a the problem you are having. Yes most skeptics do have a problem getting a clear reading from god. However history shows that the overtly religious don't have much difficultly - they are certain.
scottness writes: Men killing in the name of God is...?When a man says God told him to kill, what do you do? Moses (a man) commanded in the name of the Lord in Exodus to kill...
Exodus 32 writes: (Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." iceage, I'm requesting that you don't carry these dialogues with scottness into the off-topic category. Keep your focus on what Kader is talking about and only respond to others posts if they are responding to Kader.Forum Guidelines Edited by AdminPhat, : warning Edited by AdminPhat, : spelling
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