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Author Topic:   How Do Scientists Believe in God and Evolution?
Dr Adequate
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Message 27 of 145 (467837)
05-24-2008 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Wumpini
05-24-2008 5:14 PM


Re: Scientists and Belief in God
The more I study and learn about evolution and the more of this overwhelming evidence that I see, the more convinced I become that the theory, as it is being applied to the past, is false. Now I wonder why that is the case?
Because Satan is messing with your brain?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 55 of 145 (468095)
05-27-2008 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Wumpini
05-26-2008 8:39 PM


Re: Prediction
Is there a list of predictions that the theory has made that must be fulfilled for the theory to be true?
A list? No. Partly because the theory makes zillions of predictions, and partly because there's no need: the predictions are simply the logical consequences of the theory, hence anyone who understands the theory can figure out the predictions that apply to any particular case.
Are there predictions where the theory could be completely falsified?
Yes. Indeed, there are plenty of conceivable conditions under which no-one would ever have thought of evolution, or taken it seriously for a moment if they had.
Imagine, for example, if flora and fauna were distributed according to environment, rather than geography. Or if the same species were found throughout the fossil record. Or if the morphology of vertebrates was on the "pick and mix" plan.
I have done a quick search, and this seems to be a highly controversial subject. Some would contend that evolution is not truly a science since it does not make predictions.
And the name for these people is "creationists".
If you look at the talk origins website, this seems to be an area where they are treading water. They seem to be making excuses about why evolution is not a type of science where predictions can be easily made.
CA210: Evolution predictions
I don't see how you got that out of that webpage.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 59 of 145 (468108)
05-27-2008 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Wumpini
05-27-2008 8:39 AM


Re: Prediction
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The difference in predictive power between evolution and other sciences is one of degree, not kind.
This made me feel that they were saying evolution was different than other sciences.
When they are in fact saying the exact opposite.
This implies that the theory of evoloution has a low power to make future predicitons.
Like every scientific theory, we test it by its ability to predict the present. If some evolutionary biologist did come up with a prediction of what would happen a million years from now, how would we test the prediction?

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