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Author Topic:   How Do Scientists Believe in God and Evolution?
bluegenes
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Message 34 of 145 (467968)
05-26-2008 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Hawkins
05-26-2008 12:01 AM


Hawkins writes:
Sometimes I have shake my head on the topic of EvC.
Scientifically speaking, what makes evolution so special that you need (or not need) to spend time to persuade people into believing a "scientific theory" like...........Relativity.
The facts about Relativity (or any so-called scientific theory) are so evident.......blah blah blah.
Why people are not arguing about this regarding to relativity and any other scientific theory of the same facts and evidence.
Mayhaps it's not a scientific theory at all or do you need faith or whatsoever to believe in ..... Relativity???????
"Mayhaps" people argue in defense of the ToE because it's under constant attack from superstitious half-wits.

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bluegenes
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Message 63 of 145 (468136)
05-27-2008 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Wounded King
05-27-2008 9:37 AM


Re: Prediction
I think evolutionary theory can make good general predictions. For example: If two groups of the same species find themselves in complete geographical isolation from each other, they will inevitably diverge (in genetic character). We know that drift alone would ensure that.
So, we should find a difference between British and Irish hares, known to have been separated for 8/9,000 years since sea levels rose after the last ice age, and sure enough, there is a family difference.
Often, a creationist angle seems to imply that because the specific course of future evolution cannot be predicted, then the theory is not predictive. But no science can predict the future of the planet. How can we know about that black hole that we're moving towards that'll start sucking the solar system into itself in the year 2148? Or about the giant asteriod that'll hit us the year before? We can't even predict the next ice age.
So, I think that the "non-predictive" criticism of ToE is bollocks, basically, and due to a misunderstanding of "predictive" which expects crystal ball type magic.

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bluegenes
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Message 105 of 145 (469352)
06-05-2008 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Wumpini
06-05-2008 7:03 AM


Re: Are some scientists insane?
Wumpini writes:
Are some scientists insane?
Well, some of them do talk to an imaginary friend......

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