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Author Topic:   Is God determined to allow no proof or evidence of his existence? Part II
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Message 166 of 171 (275268)
01-03-2006 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 165 by REALIST
01-03-2006 2:39 AM


Warning - Off Topic
Realist,

Stop You are off topic. This thread is not about salvation. The Original OP can help you understand what the point of this continuation thread concerns.

I believe you have been directed to the Forum Rules earlier by AdminPhat, please read them again and pay attention to rule #10 also.

Argue the position, not the person.

Your post contained personal comments which were unneccessary and only serve to incite.

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    Mr. Ex Nihilo
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    Message 167 of 171 (276265)
    01-06-2006 1:01 AM
    Reply to: Message 165 by REALIST
    01-03-2006 2:39 AM


    Re: MR. EX NIHILO
    *sigh*

    purpledawn, I will be coming back to this thread soon to address some of your previous requests for answers.


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    One4Truth
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    Message 168 of 171 (277659)
    01-09-2006 11:51 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
    06-06-2005 1:07 PM


    HOW ABOUT SOME INTELLECTUAL HONESTY!!!
    For anyone who claims that there is no evidence for the existence of God, think about this:

    How much evidence is there that your great-great-great grandparents existed? And in 1,000 years, or even 100 years from now, how much evidence will there be that YOU existed!?

    I'll place my bets that for as long as this earth exists, there will always be more evidence for the existence of God, because all of creation will continue to exist, long after we've all gone to our "great reward"! Creation always speaks of it's creator. As long as things exists, we can trust that there is an author (creator) to all those things - including life itself!

    On top of that, and intimately tied to it, is the fact that there will always be more evidence that God "visited" us around 2,000 years ago, and established His Church, and it will continue as it has for the last 2,000 years, because He promised it would last until His return. God speaks, things happen (Gen.1) - that's the way it's always been, and always will be. We might as well get used to it! For more discussion, or consideration of my beliefs, visit:

    www.threestepstothefountain.com

    Peace and prayers,
    One4Truth


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    crashfrog
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    Message 169 of 171 (277666)
    01-10-2006 12:23 AM
    Reply to: Message 168 by One4Truth
    01-09-2006 11:51 PM


    Re: HOW ABOUT SOME INTELLECTUAL HONESTY!!!
    How much evidence is there that your great-great-great grandparents existed? And in 1,000 years, or even 100 years from now, how much evidence will there be that YOU existed!?

    Well, these people are all dead. By making an analogy with dead people, is it your assertion that God is dead? How is that a fundamentally different position than atheism?


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    sidelined
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    Message 170 of 171 (277683)
    01-10-2006 2:24 AM
    Reply to: Message 168 by One4Truth
    01-09-2006 11:51 PM


    Re: HOW ABOUT SOME INTELLECTUAL HONESTY!!!
    One4Truth

    How is it that in your opening statement here

    For anyone who claims that there is no evidence for the existence of God, think about this:

    you give us the impression that you have some substantial evidence to demonstrate and then proceed to offer nothing but unsubstantiated opinion? Please present something worth excercising neurons over would you?


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    purpledawn
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    Message 171 of 171 (277693)
    01-10-2006 5:44 AM
    Reply to: Message 168 by One4Truth
    01-09-2006 11:51 PM


    Scientific Substantiation
    Welcome to EvC One4Truth,

    You aren't really addressing the point of the original discussion.

    This thread is dealing with whether God allows or doesn't allow his existence to be scientifically substantiated.

    The questions in the original OP are:

    OP writes:

    Do you think God is determined to allow no proof or evidence of his existence -- or do you think that God is determined to allow ample proof or evidence of his existence?

    quote:
    How much evidence is there that your great-great-great grandparents existed?
    Actually I have a photo of my 3rd great grandfather and I've been to the burial site of my 3rd great grandparents. I also have a paper trail back to my 13th great grandfather. This is just one line of my father's paternal side.

    This house of my 10th great grandfather from my father's maternal line still stands in New York.

    A couple of houses that one of my 3rd great grandfathers, on my father's maternal side, built are still standing.

    I have in my possession the Bible of my 3rd great grandmother, with their family photos in them.

    So you see, I have no problem physically substantiating the existence of my 3rd great grandparents. I also know where they are all buried.

    quote:
    And in 1,000 years, or even 100 years from now, how much evidence will there be that YOU existed!?
    Granted as time passes evidence diminishes, but I am not a god. I will not always exist.

    Supposedly God is existing, not existed. So the point is, does the living God allow evidence of his current existence to be scientifically substantiated to where belief is not necessary to understand that God currently exists?


    There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. -Edith Wharton
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