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Author Topic:   Atheism is a belief (Why Atheists don't believe part 2)
alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 188 of 302 (316088)
05-29-2006 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
05-23-2006 7:37 PM


I will agree that most atheists are pretty reasonable, ok no prejudice here
Yes very prejudice!
Why should they believe? Well the bible clearly states, that it is
faith that gets you your evidence
I know I am late in this, but that is the way it goes.
your talking about a book full of myths. Sorry no, faith never a
present from santa made.
I am going to make the claim that atheism is a belief
Go ahead, uniformed opinions never make truths.
You have a thought, you express the thought, someone can choose to
believe it or not. We went over that in the previous thread. Some
atheists take some things on faith, without evidence, or checking on
the evidence.
Sorry, cannot think of one thing that I take on faith blindly.
Now the thought is God. You can choose to believe it or not. You
can look for evidence, and you may find none. You may find only
subjective evidence. But either way, you have chosen not to believe in
God
Who's god;Yours our my forefathers?You mean 'well not find any'.
choice? A choice between superstition or reality.
Let's reverse roles. You are trying to convince me that there is
no God. I say to you prove it. You can't.
Why you'r doing a very good job without me!
he only way you could be a true atheist, is if you have never
heard the word God, and you have no inner feeling that there is one.
The thought has never crossed your mind.
Ah, your a true athiest and can now make this claim! No sorry no
voices in my head. What do 'inner feelings' have to do with this.So
you also think your a mind reader?
I hate it when an atheist tries to portray himself as someone like
that, when it is just not the case.
Is not hateful feelings opposite of what you are suppose to follow?
Does it bother you that athiest are more secure in life than you seem
to be?
There is more to the thought, it goes on to the mathematical
possibility of God, but I guess I should stop it here.
Please don't stop.I would love to see these mathmatical
possibilities and how you arrived at the answers.
I know that this is far in to the thread.
RiVeRrat there is no god or maker-man or coyote-man, zeus, baal,
wodin, shiva, kali.If you want to see one reason that some athiest
do not believe,read back through yours iano faith and buzsaws post.
I have never believed period.

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alacrity fitzhugh
Member (Idle past 4316 days)
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Message 213 of 302 (316368)
05-30-2006 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by riVeRraT
05-30-2006 1:55 PM


Hi riverrat thanks for the welcome.
This seems to be a programed response about whether God exists or
not. IT's getting tiresome. You'll have to do some more reading in these
forums, as we have covered topics like that.
If your tired of the response then don't ask the question. Funny I
read alot how about you? It's also plainly obvious that god does not
exist, and is just as childish.
Like santa.
Shot I just saw I misspelled uninformed. Anyway that was a dodge to
the left right? I was talking about you.
Thank you, that is the response I was looking for.
Your welcome.
Who said anything about voices?
You did!
the only way you could be a true atheist, is if you have
never
heard the word God, and you have no inner feeling that there is one.
The thought has never crossed your mind.
You said 'heard the word' plus 'inner feeling', and then you enfored that the thought had never crossed my mind
Another pre-programmed response that they must teach in college
these days.
Come now young man my wife is a diest my dad is an elder at his church
my two daughters go to church;who in your mind programmed me.
The possibilities that we exist are slim and none, but we are hear.
Do like the evolutionist do, and just throw the term "millions of
years" and you have an answer for anything. While it is "plainly"
obvious how long the universe has been around, what was here before
it, and what evolved into God as we know it? Look how far we've come
in just such a short time. We are little gods.
Why can't God be a possibility?
1) We do exist so it is not slim to none!
2) because maker-man did not create him
3) How was colledge I never went.
4) Who ever claimed,besid manson in my monkee,that we are little gods
That's a piss poor exuse to not believe in God, I won't accept it.
We are not gods, we are just like you
Piss poor or not maybe you should start working on yourself first.
Ah, but have you ever wondered?
No. My life,and all my actions I am accountable for. To hope for
absolution, for wrongs you have done, from any deity, is immature.
Take care of now now.Also when you do something you regret later in
life, be an adult and accept the responsibilities of your actions!

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alacrity fitzhugh
Member (Idle past 4316 days)
Posts: 194
Joined: 02-10-2004


Message 221 of 302 (316445)
05-30-2006 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by riVeRraT
05-30-2006 1:55 PM


Hello rr had to go pick up wife lets continue:
Define reality
The topic is about why I believe in athiesm. I dont have a belief in
athiesm ;I'm an athiest because ther is no god. And you don't want to
accept the truth of my being!
Don't pretend to me,
To pretend is to practice in a decietful manner. Why would you suggest
I partake in something that would dishonor my ancestors? But still no
god.
I can hate, I am human.
The question was is that what you were taught to follow. Turn the
other cheek, love thy neighbor. Not 'I can hate I'm human'.

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alacrity fitzhugh
Member (Idle past 4316 days)
Posts: 194
Joined: 02-10-2004


Message 223 of 302 (316451)
05-30-2006 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by riVeRraT
05-30-2006 11:13 PM


ure...your a poster atheist.
No god in that statement but continue
You learned from your wife, and your dad, and your 2 daughters in
college?
Do you need remidal english. You implied I was
preprogrammed(brainwashed) into an athiestic belief. I showed you I
.
am surronded by loving caring christians unlike you.
Careful there, your stealing my lines.
I hate odds. I hate surveys.
If the odds of winning the lotto are 1,000,000 to 1, and you wiin on y
our first try, then that wasn;t the odds for you then, was it?
No god in that statement but continue
How was colledge I never went.
Seems that way.
This justifies the remedial english comment. Tell me, first you imply
I went to college and was programmed; then when you fall on your face
you do an ad hominem atack.
So did you enjoy your post. Still do not believe in god and now am of
the opinion you just want to talk to your self.
Let us see I don't believe I dont have a belief in athiesm. But you in
your infinite wisdom( your comment abe about your selfpost 222)
right, I never went to school
decided
that I was pretending and uneducated(your comment abe about yourself post 222)
It is that way in NYC. They leave
you with no choice but not to believe, or at least question it.
Edited by randy feagley, : added comment to show he said it about himself not about me in quotes

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alacrity fitzhugh
Member (Idle past 4316 days)
Posts: 194
Joined: 02-10-2004


Message 246 of 302 (316577)
05-31-2006 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by riVeRraT
05-31-2006 9:27 AM


still doing ad hominem not subject
Around here we do not attack the person (which you seem to be doing a lot of) we attack the subject, it's part of the forum rules. It would serve us all a little better if you would keep your emotions out of it.
I said
How was colledge I never went.
You said
Seems that way.
Either way, you are new here, and semantics are not welcome, at
l;east not with me. Your best bet at an intelligent conversation with
me will be honesty, other wise it will cease, I don't have time for
it.
Then you said
Around here we do not attack the person (which you
seem to be doing a lot of) we attack the subject
Thats called pot calling the kettle black. You seem to do this a lot
when things dont go your way!
The subjectis is why dont athiest believe. Not riverrat wants me to be
indoctrinated into his cult. Would you mind sticking to the subject at
hand or give up preaching.
Oh one more thing I registered and posted months before you so no Im
not new.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 270 of 302 (316708)
05-31-2006 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by riVeRraT
05-31-2006 9:27 AM


riverrat:
BTW, you spelled remedial, atheistic, and surrounded wrong.
Well way back in Message 191 I made the assertion "Another
pre-programmed response that they must teach in college these
days."
Selective memory right
heres the first part that I answered to about programming
This seems to be a prgramed response about whether God exists or n
ot. IT's getting tiresome. You'll have to do some more reading in
these forums, as we have covered topics like that.
I answered:
Come now young man my wife is a diest my dad is an elder at his
church my two daughters go to church;who in your mind programmed
me.
Your question implies those around me there is no mention of college
not into later did you state
programming with college!Plus you evaded yet another question try to
answer if you can;who do you think programmed me
So you either qoute-mine yourself to better your
position. Or you just don't remember what you type.
Now
you spelled remedial, atheistic, and surrounded wrong.
This was rhe first of your attacks on me. I have yet to point out any
word that you misspelled.
I'll ask you another question, what is beyond our known
universe?
Way of topic son. Its about atheist beliefs
Now all this has been entertaining for sure, but you'll have to
prove there is no God,
Already did in post 213 now you prove I'm wrong!
Lets recap; You failed to understand how this was prejudiced
I will agree that most atheists are pretty reasonable, ok no
prejudice here
Yes very prejudice!
???
This is called a predetermined stereo-type.You concede the point by
evading it,thank you
you evaded this
Go ahead, uninformed opinions never
make truths.
Like santa.
I was talking about you.
you evaded
Who said anything about voices?
You said 'heard the word' plus 'inner feeling', and then you
enfored that the thought had never crossed my mind
I'll take your evasion as a concession
next:
Look how far we've come in just such a short time. We are little
gods.
Who ever claimed,beside manson in
my monkee,that we are little gods
So your conceding that only you and manson have belittled christianity
with the little gods statement. Thank you
next:
The only way you could be a true atheist
I asked
Ah, your a true athiest and can now make this claim!
Are you a true atheist or just talking to
yourself in the mirror
You evaded this one too.You concede to satements of no knowledge.thank
you.
I have every right to hate, it's my nature to hate things.
I hate it
message one
That's a piss poor exuse to not believe in God
message 191
I have every right to hate
Seems like you need anger management classes.so full of hate.
I can even be righteous in hating certain thingss
What would jesus say?
Ah, but have you ever wondered?
Now you concede that I have not wondered about god. Thankl you
.Also when you do something you regret later in
life, be an adult and accept the responsibilities of your actions!
your response
Your giving yourself away.
Another evasion!
message 191
That is an illusion, and an immature response. Don't
pretend to me, or any other "religious person" because I hate
religon
message 191
Don't pretend to me
Seems that way
did not mention your family, you did.
You have no clue if I am a loving caring Christian, you don't know me
from a hole in the wall.
Wow what astatement of envy.you really do need help>Unable to fathom
how Someone with ideas can be far happier in life then he could ever
be. Maybe one day you will grow up and loss all your anger.Oh and by
your own words you are not a loving caring christian. Just a lost
young man who still is looking for his path.maybe someday you will
you someday find!
peace?

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