Atheism is a belief (Why Atheists don't believe part 2)

You do realize that this, like all religious proofs, is just circular reasoning.

You just don't understand the meaning of the word atheism.IF you don't believe in santa claus are you a a-santaist? how about an a-toothfairyist?I don't understand why so many people just don't understand what atheism really is. It's NOT anti-theism. (although anti-theism is atheism).There are plenty of things I just don't concern myself with and most of them aren't beliefs or belief systems.

That's BLASPHEMY! The NIN version is WAY better (NIN RULES)

You are trying to make an analogy between blindness and sight to non-belief and belief/faith/bible/etc.This is a false analogy.I can show someone with sight a red object and we can agree it's red.Two believers can't show each other their evidence even though they supposedly have it.

hahahaha, but no... that's not circular reasoning.It's actually a hierarchical system.

There is actually an answer to that question... but I'm probably not fit to explain it as it's pretty complicated. I read this whole book on linguistics much and I don't remember exactly how to explain it. (it has to do with the evolution of language).But you do pose a good question. If you are ever interested I'd be willing to contribute to a thread about itCheers

No, it's different.You and faith compring notes is more like two friends discussing their opinions of a book or a movie. It's a very subjective thing.

This was already pointed out as a false analogy.The blind man is irrelevant because an objective measurement can made by an instrument to show the wavelength. There is no subjective component because the instrument has no perceptions/conciousness/etc.

Wow, amazing that we were lead off topic in yet another discussion about the nature of reality. I'm shocked.In any case Atheism is not a belief any more than "off" is a TV channel or "clear" is a color.The TV analogy is particularly good in my opinion. All the various relgions are the channels while atheism is having the TV off. If you understand the TV analogy, you will understand why Atheism really isn't a belief (or at least not a belief system of any sort).PEACE OUT

Like I said before purple.Calling atheism a belief is like calling off a TV channel

Good post Moose (and one that has to be repeated every few months).I think a good way to explain atheism to a lot of people is how I think (and hopefully I'm not unique).So atheism is a lack of belief in god... but even more I simply don't care if god exists or not. I care about the existence of god about as much as I care about last night's WNBA game. Whether there is a god or not is totally irrelevant to my existence so I just don't care because it has zero impact on my life. I don't even concern myself with it.

I am perfectly content with whatever happens when I die. I made my peace with life and death years ago (which is strange, because I'm only 29).Since there is no evidence at all of any sort of afterlife I'm certainly not going to worry about it now.In any case if by some strange twist of fate there is a god or god(s) or aliens we meet after we die I am perfectly content to be judged on my actions.A god that needs to be worshipped is an egotistical loser in any case.I've never understood why some people paint god to be like some two-bit 3rd world dictator.

Actually you are totally missing the point. I don't beileve in god. I don't care if god exists. And if the way I live my life isn't good enough for some god/god(s)/aliens then they can go fuck themselves.I live my life by what I know is right. And what I know is that many flavors of christianity teach things that are morally wrong. (although not all, I see a lot of common ground with guys like Phat or Jar).Another reason I am an atheist is that I REFUSE to compromise what I know to be right and wrong to accomodate some bullshit book written by people who thought the earth was flat a few thousand years ago. Intolerance is wrong.. and the bible preaches intolerance.