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Message 350 of 794 (877739)
06-21-2020 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 348 by Phat
06-21-2020 9:23 AM


Re: Burden Of Proof 101
The thing with most of the more sophisticated current religious beliefs is that they have evolved to be basically unfalsifiable. A vague, ambiguous and intentionally undefinable concept (GOD) that did/does things that are only subjectively experienced if detectable at all. Ask yourself why those who hold and cherish religious beliefs might design their concepts in this way...
And by design I mean a process of meme adaption down the generations that we could call survival of the least falsifiable.

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Straggler
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Message 355 of 794 (877756)
06-21-2020 2:01 PM
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06-21-2020 1:12 PM


Re: Burden Of Proof 101
And that’s why such beliefs are designed to be unfalsifiable. You couldn’t bear the idea of them being falsified. You are far from alone in that.
Does that make any sense to you from your perspective and if not why not?
It does make sense. In psychological sense at least. But I’m sure that in my case if I held such beliefs there would be a nagging part of me wondering if the reason I was so resistant, and the reason the beliefs themselves seemed so designed to be avoid falsification, was because they weren’t actually true....

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Straggler
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Message 360 of 794 (877778)
06-21-2020 5:21 PM
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06-21-2020 2:33 PM


Re: Burden Of Proof 101
Have you ever known any friends who were or are strong believers? Do you get along with them?
Of course! My late grandfather was a pretty devout Catholic. Current friend at work is a Muslim. And lots of people I am friends with are believers of one sort or another. I keep my fervent irreligiousness to debate sites generally!
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