When Will The End-Times Be And How Will We Know?

That's not a lie.

Free will from the deity of your theology is both an illusion and a delusion.

jar and ringo both writes:What does the story of the prodigal son say about that?

jar writes:Evil is a human creation, an evolved social skill.It is also totally irrelevant to the discussion and just another attempt by you to avoid dealing with the issue.There are several parts to the issue.Is God the creator of all that is, seen and unseen?Is God omniscient?Is anyone or anything sent to hell?If all of those are true then that God is just a piece of shit.To keep that God from being a piece of shit at least one of those parts must be false.

jar writes:I wonder if Radio Shack has Evil Meters in stock so we can measure that force.

Phat, the idea that evil is some outside force is just another cop out getouttahell conjob snake oil ******** made up to peddle to the rubes.

It's yet another excuse...

What is irrational about pointing out that the Apologists simply make shit up?

What evidence do you have that my position might come from Joe Wood and not from the fact that I accept the fact that the Apologists write what they write?

What evidence do you have that The Reverend Father Joe Wood discouraged me from accepting Jesus?

What evidence do you even have that it is not the perversion of Jesus by you and the Apologists that I reject rather than Jesus?

jar writes:Can you see a pattern Phat?

jar writes:pitiful.

jar writes:I see no reason for me to take a stupid position Phat.

jars belief statement writes:Dark comes early in northern Maryland, and so it was inevitable that most of the time we entertained ourselves. What can be more entertaining to young men than big issues. Somehow, GOD and religion and mankind’s place in all of this seemed to be a regular topic of discussion. The evenings were long and the conversations often heated. When the weather allowed we’d sit out on the porch, arguing while we waited for our turn up on the ping-pong table, when bad we’d sit around in the front room, or visit one of the Master’s houses where we could huddle in front of the open fire letting ideas rise like sparks from the logs.It was there, in those long conversations where some of the questions raised by Father Joe and my parents began to get resolved. It was a period of opening horizons, my every belief being challenged by minds as quick and intensive as my own, by experience far greater than my own and by whole new moral systems, the Works of Mencius, the Gnostic Gospels, the philosophies of Greece and Germany, the writings of Thoreau and Frost and Twain and Lewis and Tolkein and Hemingway and Camus and Seller and Yeatman.(...)The discussions with the other kids were the most challenging. The Masters were often Socratic, asking questions to get YOU to think. The other boarders though gave no slack, took no prisoners. You either supported your position or it was toast. It wasn’t important what the position was, no one cared whether or not you agreed with them, but by GOD you better be able to support what YOU believed.

ringo writes:The pattern is that EVERYBODY ridicules your ridiculous responses. Then you ignore their responses and continue repeating the same old PRATTS.

Tangle writes:The religionists have no answer, but it makes no difference to their belief. Belief is impervious to logic.