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Author Topic:   Where Faith Comes From in the "moderate" Christian religions
Woodsy
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Message 5 of 132 (513120)
06-25-2009 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Peg
06-25-2009 4:39 AM


So besides the bible, faith/belief is a part of our nature. And how we choose to exercise that need is a very personal thing based on our perceptions,life experience and environment.
This doesn't make the beliefs true, nor is it evidence that they are true. Personal experience is not valid evidence of the supernatural, as it could merely be internally generated.
If, as you say, this tendency is innate, the fact that religion is widespread is not evidence for the truth of religion either.
Some other kind of evidence needs to be presented to be convincing to non-believers.

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Woodsy
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Message 23 of 132 (513192)
06-26-2009 6:35 AM
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06-26-2009 3:24 AM


i thought the OP was asking where faith came from if it didnt come from the bible...many people have faith without it being based on religion, so i though the OP was asking why this is so.
I have read that religious experiences can be stimulated electrically, so your observation that they seem to be built in seems to be correct.
I have not had one of these experiences, but I gather that they can be very convincing. I wonder if faith arises in part from some sort of flaw in the wiring of our brains.
(apologies for earlier derail)

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Woodsy
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From: Burlington, Canada
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Message 68 of 132 (513370)
06-28-2009 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Peg
06-28-2009 6:54 AM


Re: Faith Done Me Wrong
But if you dont think evolution contradicts the biblical claim that God created life, and man, please explain it to me.
If evolution means that we've descended from a common ancestor, how does this NOT contradict the biblical claim that God create the man in his image? I dont get it.
Sure it contradicts it. So much the worse for the bible.
If many years of careful investigation by a great many scientists shows something, and some old book written thousands of years ago by ignorant savages shows something else, is it sensible to go with the old book?

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