Where Faith Comes From in the "moderate" Christian religions

personally I believe spirituality is built into all humans...this is why so many have some belief in a God/gods of some sort.Even those who dont believe in God/gods, they do believe in something that caused our being, ie evolution....this shows that even if one doesn't believe in a God/gods, they still yearn for knowledge, meaning and wisdom. We all do this because IMO we were created in the image of God and therefore we possess his qualities and creative ability.So besides the bible, faith/belief is a part of our nature. And how we choose to exercise that need is a very personal thing based on our perceptions,life experience and environment.

thats the point i thought i was making. i thought the OP was asking where faith came from if it didnt come from the bible...many people have faith without it being based on religion, so i though the OP was asking why this is so.i'll have to re-read it.

no problem, i assumed you were correct because i often misread/misinterepret/misunderstand many posts lolim sure electrical stimuli can produce such experiences too, but i've never had a religious experience in the sense of seeing something supernatural or hearing voices etc. I have seen events in my life move in certain directions which to me appeared to be from a higher level...for example things that I know i could not have achieved or survived without help from a higher power.This is why i dont believe faith is merely 'physiological' I do believe it has to do with being made in Gods image and with a dependence on him. Of course if i didnt believe in God, i'd probably try to find a physiological reason for it because it does seem to be a very illogical phenomenon in a physical world.

it certainly wasn't a slip, you are most correct.evolution does not require a God, it happened miraculously, we came from existing stock, we were not individually created.Evolution DOES contradict the basic bible teaching that God created us in his own image. If i'm wrong on that, show me. Or are you saying that evolution does not say God did not individually create Mankind?

are you referring to 'faith' and 'belief' as one in the same? I ask because when I talk about faith, i dont mean a belief system. I view them separately. By way of illustration...a bus/train/car has two components, the driver and the machine. In this case, the machine is the belief system (buddism/christianity/islam) and faith is the driver. Its what motivates one to carry out the requirements of the belief system. I agree with you on that. Many people choose what is most convenient for them. Whereas, it should always be based on truth.

I have heard that assertion, but I dont agree with it. I hold to 'creation by God' just as the bible says. Animals were created according to their kinds, and man was created in Gods own image.
If i'm told that I should believe in evolution because its taught in science and science is 100% accurate, Should I believe it? Are all beliefs 100% accurate and true just because it is accepted by most people and taught in school???If you lived at the time when the beliefs of Greek philosophers were treated as 100% accurate, then you probably would have believed that the earth was flat and held up by elephants riding on a giant tortus, or that the stars were holes in the sky...or perhaps you would have believed that humans were born from spontaneous generation and evolution.In the 5th century BCE, the Greek philosopher Empedocles believed in spontaneous generation, gradual evolution of organisms and survival of the fittest. Not long after that, Aristotle taught that "man is the highest point of one long and continuous ascent." They started the idea of evolution and it certainly wasnt based on the scientific method then, nor do I believe it is today. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

LOlwell you go right ahead and deny me, i'll wave you down when they're not lookingBut if you dont think evolution contradicts the biblical claim that God created life, and man, please explain it to me.If evolution means that we've descended from a common ancestor, how does this NOT contradict the biblical claim that God create the man in his image? I dont get it.

No, my beliefs are not evidence, im merely stating a factthe fact is that the idea of evolution began with greek philosophers who did not use science as a basis for the beliefthe idea has 'evolved' over time to what we have today. When it was rehashed by Darwin it caused a outrage in religious circles because it clearly was in conflict with the idea that God had created each species.stupid i know, but a fact none the less.

dogmatism?
i hate science and democracy???im sure evolution doesnt cover ALL the sciences. just because i dont believe in evolution doesnt mean i dont believe in other sciences.And where does democracy come into it??? Am i undemocratic because i dont believe in evolution???Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

my understanding is that the scientific method is to observe what happens and based on those observations form a theory as why it happens then test the theory by experiments to see if the predictions based on the theory are fulfilled ie observe, theorize, test, concludeIs that the scientific method?Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

it seems that you are saying the scientific method does not use or require experimentation as a means of establishing a factis that correct???

do you believe this to be the same principle where evolution is concerned?

how is evolution established if not by experimentation?

I find it hard to believe that one can accept that the TOE is established based purely on observationsounds more like a wild stretch of the imagination rather then solid scientific investigationOne question i have with regard to that...if evolution is accepted so easily, why is it so objectionable to accept a creator?If neither can be proved with scientific investigation, why is one theory accepted and the other not?

he might believe in God, but if he believes that evolution caused the great variety of life on earth, then can it be said that he believes the bible?
Did he miss Genesis Chpt 1 in theology school? the bacteria may behave that way, but it does not explain all life on earth. It simply shows how flexible these germs are and surely explains why they survive where nothing else can. I would need to see one species produce a completely different species. I would need to see life spring from the ground with not intervention required.