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jar
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Message 77 of 81 (109194)
05-19-2004 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Cold Foreign Object
05-18-2004 11:05 PM


Willing to give it a try.
First, I am NOT promoting Polytheism.
Jesus is one of the major Prophets to Islam.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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wmscott
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From: Sussex, WI USA
Joined: 12-19-2001


Message 78 of 81 (109337)
05-19-2004 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by MonkeyBoy
05-16-2004 10:01 AM


Re: There can be only One
quote:
Does this imply that there are minor or lesser gods? . . . I'm beginning to think that all paths lead to One, that the fallacy (IOM) of "one true god" is a misconception ,
Yes of course there are lesser "gods", some people make a god of their own belly and there are many things and beings real or imagined that humans worship. This is why it is important to know God's name, it not a case of all roads leading to the same place, rather all roads but one are dead ends. Since there is only one path that isn't a waste of time and life, we need to chose very wisely. Obviously you need a map and we have one in the Bible. The "Map Is" reliable and accurate as shown by Bible prophecy and historical accuracy.
Many of the supposed contradictions are the result of misunderstandings and misinterpretations such as YEC. When a YEC comes to this site and sees YEC blown to shreds in 60 seconds or less, he may think the Bible has been shown to be in error when it is just the silly YEC interpretations that have gone up in flames. You seem to have made a simular mistake when you discovered that some of your belief structure had collapsed under the weight of contrary facts, for example.-
quote:
I am not convinced at all that the bible is inspired by god. There are some 'nice' things in there, and I like most of the words of Christ; but I am not convinced that Christ was divine (I'm not sure he was convinced of his divinity either).
Jesus was not divine or God, he was God's son, not God himself. See Message 14 "Solving the Mystery of the Trinity" in the thread "Jesus/God the same?" at http://EvC Forum: Jesus/God the same? -->EvC Forum: Jesus/God the same? . In that thread a number of biblical issues are discussed and dealt with such as how biblical prophecies that have been fulfilled in great detail show the Bible to be of supernatural origin. Below are two links that bear on the issue at hand.
Why You Can Trust the Bible
http://www.watchtower.org/library/t13/why_trust.htm
Faith and ReasonAre They Compatible?
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2002/4/1/article_01.htm
Perhaps the most unbelievable part of the Bible for many is the Biblical Flood, which it turns out isn't so unbelievable once you solve the mystery of how it happened. I have been engaged in some rather long discussions on the subject and have presented a good case for the flood as having occurred. You may want to check it out if you have questions about the deluge as being a real event..
Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood II http://EvC Forum: Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood II -->EvC Forum: Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood II
Many have come to the wrong conclusions because they have made their decisions based on wrong and incomplete information, you need to examine the evidence for yourself, not everything is the way we think it is. It is your decision, the choice is up to you.
Sincerely Yours; Wm Scott Anderson

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Sleeping Dragon
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Message 79 of 81 (109425)
05-20-2004 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by MonkeyBoy
05-07-2004 8:55 AM


To MonkeyBoy:
Just some info:
Page not found
Pay special attention to the third paragraph:
"In reality, there is only one religion, the religion of God. This one religion is continually evolving, and each particular religious system represents a stage in the evolution of the whole. The Bah' Faith represents the current stage in the evolution of religion. To emphasize the idea that all of the teachings and actions of the Manifestation are directed by God and do not originate from natural, human sources, Bah'u'llh used the term "revelation" to describe the phenomenon that occurs each time a Manifestation appears. In particular, the writings of the Manifestation represent the infallible Word of God. Because these writings remain long after the earthly life of the Manifestation is finished, they constitute an especially important part of the phenomenon of revelation. So much is this so, that the term "revelation" is sometimes used in a restricted sense to refer to the writings and words of the Manifestation."
I believe this, in effect, was what you were referring to?

"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"

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MonkeyBoy
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Message 80 of 81 (109453)
05-20-2004 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Sleeping Dragon
05-20-2004 10:04 AM


In reality, there is only one religion, the religion of God. This one religion is continually evolving, and each particular religious system represents a stage in the evolution of the whole. The Bah' Faith represents the current stage in the evolution of religion.
That is interesting, and pretty close to what I believe, with regards to religion evolving.
Also, the points raised here, I agree with:
  • the responsibility of each person to independently search for truth
  • the abandonment of all forms of prejudice
  • recognition of the oneness of the human family
  • recognition of the essential unity of the world’s religions
  • recognition that true religion is in harmony with reason and the pursuit of scientific knowledge
  • assurance to women of full equality of rights and opportunity with men
  • the elimination of extremes of poverty and wealth
  • the realization of universal education
  • the establishment of a global commonwealth of nations
I doubt that many would find too many of the above 'teachings' questionable.
I also agree wholeheartily with the statement at the bottom of the link that you provided:
The fundamental principle enunciated by Bah'u'llh, the followers of His Faith firmly believe, is that religious truth is not absolute but relative, that Divine Revelation is a continuous and progressive process, that all the great religions of the world are divine in origin, that their basic principles are in complete harmony, that their aims and purposes are one and the same, that their teachings are but facets of one truth, that their functions are complementary, that they differ only in the nonessential aspects of their doctrines, and that their missions represent successive stages in the spiritual evolution of human society.
But I have a simple question that I have not been able to find the answer; I realize that the originals were in Arabic, and that they written in the 1800's (if I am incorrect, please tell me), but the english translation uses King James language. Words ending with -eth, thou, shalt, etc. Again, if I am misinformed, please tell me.

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Sleeping Dragon
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Message 81 of 81 (110399)
05-25-2004 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by MonkeyBoy
05-20-2004 12:08 PM


To MonkeyBoy:
Sorry for the later reply. I am still getting used to the interface and have only recently learnt how to keep track of my posts.
Reply to your post:
I am sorry, I would be unable to answer that question. I have had the fortune of meeting a follower of Bahai Faith and he has divulged some of the beliefs involved to me, most of which I found to be respectable, if not commendable. I posted the link because it appeared to be what you were referring to in your posts. If you have any questions, I suggest you email their organisation directly.

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