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Buzsaw
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Message 41 of 49 (98802)
04-08-2004 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Sylas
04-03-2004 1:08 PM


A human cannot live with cells that only have 23 chromsomes; they need all 46. They can manage with an exrta chromosome; but only in exceptional cases.
Loss of a chromosome is very serious genetic damage, and except in very unusual cases indeed an embryo with a missing chromosome will not even come to term. It is like wings on an aircraft. They may be pretty much identical, but you still need both of them to fly.
If that be the case, wouldn't humans need to to appear on the scene suddenly? It appears to be a nightmare for evolutionists. My appologies if this has been covered in other threads and I missed it.

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Buzsaw
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Message 43 of 49 (98840)
04-09-2004 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by crashfrog
04-08-2004 11:46 PM


Our ape ancestor was diploid. We're diploid. You can change the organization of the genes by fusing or cleaving chromosomes, but the amount of genes hasn't changed between our ape ancestor and us now.
I guess you all believe in miracles also. Ape chromozomes fuse together un-naturally so as to produce a human offspring, allegedly? So mom and pop ape have a chromozone accident/miracle and suddenly raise the first human? Otherwise don't you have just as big a problem to explain if the process took a long period of change over time? I guess what I'm asking is how can you have anything produced from partially fused chromozomes while the transition is allegedly going on?
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Buzsaw
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Message 47 of 49 (99163)
04-10-2004 11:49 PM


Thanks Sylas and Ned for the explanations, though I'm of the understanding that nothing has been observed that has produced something better. By that, I mean that if it were true that we evolved from apes, a far greater intelligent product has been the permanent result with the new improved species. What has been observed in the lab to show your explanations to be viable concerning lasting improved consequences of the rearrangement of chromozomes or genes?

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